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The low point of Jimmy Carter’s awful presidency-Byron York

Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:58 am
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:58 am
I should have waited until the Eulogies are finished, but wanted to post this for those who were not around at the time, or have forgotten.
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THE LOW POINT OF JIMMY CARTER’S AWFUL PRESIDENCY. Forty-five years ago, on July 15, 1979, President Jimmy Carter gave what came to be known as his “malaise” speech. More than halfway through his term as president, things were going terribly. Inflation was already high, 6.3%, when Carter took office. By the time of the malaise speech, it had risen to 9.6%. A year later, in June 1980, it hit 13.6%. As National Review’s Philip Klein pointed out, “To maintain the buying power that $100 had on the month Carter was sworn into office, you’d need $150 by the time he left the White House just four years later.” Gas prices skyrocketed amid shortages and long lines. “Gas stations flew a stoplight-themed array of flags to alert drivers about their fuel supplies,” the Washington Post noted. “Red meant they were all out, yellow meant running low, and green signaled they were stocked.”

The standard of living headed steadily downward. And that is not to mention the disastrous international consequences of Carter’s presidency — the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the humiliating Iranian hostage ordeal, and the even more humiliating failed American hostage rescue attempt. Through it all, Carter projected the image, and the reality, of a man who was simply not up to the job.
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Carter won the election in 1976 because of the peculiar circumstances of the post-Watergate moment. After Richard Nixon’s resignation, the Republican Party was in the dumps — a top GOP politico once told me the party actually considered changing its name, its image was so bad — and Carter appealed to voters with a promise that he would never lie to the public. But Americans quickly soured on the new president when it became clear he would make bad times even worse.

Carter, who recently died at age 100 and whose funeral will be held Thursday at the National Cathedral in Washington, went on to build a reputation as a great ex-president. That is debatable, but the fact is so many people speak highly of Carter’s post-presidential years because they know he was a failure as president. And the “malaise” speech was perhaps the lowest moment of those terrible four years.

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However, it's hard to deny he had God in his heart.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42196 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:03 am to
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a top GOP politico once told me the party actually considered changing its name, its image was so bad


A result of ineffective leadership to stave off the ridiculous overhyping of the Watergate break in and a media feeding frenzy that sadly shaped how news was delivered (and by who) for the next several decades.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23428 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:03 am to
After the half staff flag bullshite last week during Trump's inauguration coming up... someone at lunch was criticizing Trump and talking Carter up.

I simply said if they really want to do a Carter as president remembrance... they should raise interest rates to 14%-17% for an entire day. That way everyone could really remember what it was like... at least for a day.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:03 am to
I’m just glad he lived long enough to see Biden take the title of worst president.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87456 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:05 am to
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I simply said if they really want to do a Carter as president remembrance... they should raise interest rates to 14%-17% for an entire day. That way everyone could really remember what it was like... at least for a day.


We could bring back that term that was coined between 1976 and 1980: Misery Index
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34079 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:06 am to
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“To maintain the buying power that $100 had on the month Carter was sworn into office, you’d need $150 by the time he left the White House just four years later.”



Is he talking about Carter or Joe?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60683 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:14 am to
As someone who knew Mr Jimmy personally he was the ONLY true Christian POTUS in my lifetime (and I am pretty damn old).

He was also the smartest POTUS we had, at least in my lifetime.

I campaigned for both Nixon and Carter and along with Ford, the 3 presidents probably had the most difficult decade to weather with the early and late oil shocks of the 1970's. This was probably the greatest transfer of US industrial wealth to foreign resources in US history and happened in less than a decade.

Carter may have gotten the hostages out earlier but Regan went behind the scenes (well proven and documented in history today) and was never punished fully for Iran - Contra deal which should have been high treason.


If you are around my age and have personal knowledge of Nixon or Carter you are welcome to comment on what you lived through as an adult. If you knew nothing about either at the time, kindly STFU!

Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2823 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:18 am to
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he was the ONLY true Christian POTUS in my lifetime


quote:

Carter has stated that he supports same-sex marriage in civil ceremonies. He said: "I believe Jesus would. I don't have any verse in scripture ... I believe Jesus would approve gay marriage, but that's just my own personal belief. I think Jesus would encourage any love affair if it was honest and sincere and was not damaging to anyone else, and I don't see that gay marriage damages anyone else".


You sure about that?

Apparently he didn't think the Old Testament or Paul's writings were scripture.


ETA: Double Standard
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 10:23 am
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17846 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:20 am to
Shite! Try 21% as the high point...I lived through it.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17846 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:24 am to
Your opinion, you are entitled, but Carter was the most hypocritical, vindictive piece of shite to hold the office.

LBJ was a horrible person and should be enjoying hell, but Carter may have escaped by the skin of his teeth.

Pffft.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116690 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:24 am to
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it had risen to 9.6%. A year later, in June 1980, it hit 13.6%

I remember those days. It was the perfect time to lose some weight. You couldn't afford the food.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2823 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:25 am to
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He was also the smartest POTUS we had, at least in my lifetime.



Also take issue with this. If he was that smart, he would have replicated Nixon's foreign policy, because Nixon actually was smart.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60683 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:26 am to
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You sure about that?


What are you sure about Jesus?

Do you believe he was a Jew?
Do you believe he was Black?
Do you believe he was African?
Do you believe he was Brown?
Do you believe he was Middle Eastern?
Do you believe he was Gay?






We live in a world of "wanna be" Christians when so many preach hate and division in direct contrast to what Jesus actually taught. We are in an age of self interest over common interest which seems the exact opposite of what Jesus actually preached
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7067 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:28 am to
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God in his heart.


God in his heart? This is a guy who supported babies getting sucked out or pulled out of wombs. Yeah, what a great guy. frick him.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60683 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:31 am to
I was around both and they were both smart.

Nixon was smarter about people but more ruthless (the stick first)

Carter was smarter about things but less ruthless. (the carrot first)





Like the GUNS vs BUTTER argument in economics, both can work based on who is negotiating and who they are negotiation with yet we often view it as OR instead of EITHER.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11164 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:34 am to
how Bad times were when you knew you had to get gasoline.

I was at a major scientific meeting in Bolder CO, and several scientists with Union had driven from southern California. They got to Bolder and the local Union gas stations refused to sell them any petroleum products. One of the men was especially furious, " Don't know know who I am with my Union ID? I'm the guy who signs off on the wells that are drilled and the successful ones are why you have gas to sell today."
And the station owners held their ground that the only would sell to their regulars.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60683 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Your opinion, you are entitled, but Carter was the most hypocritical, vindictive piece of shite to hold the office.


And you know this how?

Were you a full grown man when he was actually in office?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17846 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:38 am to
I was you clown. I, regrettably purchased my first home at the time.

Other people are as old or older than you.

You may go now.
Posted by ArmyAUguyofDallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Jun 2020
336 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:38 am to
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Carter may have gotten the hostages out earlier



He had over 400 days to get anything done. His only accomplishment was getting poorly trained service members killed in that country. ( Dems seems like they have a record of doing that)

I was active duty at the time.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60683 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:47 am to
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I, regrettably purchased my first home at the time.


Yes, so you were on the tail end of the oil shocks of the 70's ands so got the full brunt. My 1969 house cost 32.5K and in 1979 the same house was now 87K and when I sold it a decade later the price was was 178K.

Simple question, which takes less distance to execute a 180 degree direction change


Rowboat

or

Aircraft Carrier


POTUS is in for 4 or 8 years and what happens in that time may not show up till 4 to 12 years later. Ronnies excesses did not catch up till later and cost Bush Sr his second term.

You may go sit at the kids table now for not learning how adults have to think long term and about their grandkids over themselves.
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