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Will Nuss be improved in 2025? Impressions from bowl game?
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:58 pm
Just curious because I tend to fail at optimism. What are the positives with Nusses progress going into next year. I know it was huge that he came back with BU flipping.
Are we in good hands or is it gonna all come together in 2026 now?
Seriously question - what are the expectations of him next year?
Are we in good hands or is it gonna all come together in 2026 now?
Seriously question - what are the expectations of him next year?
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:59 pm to Ebridg3
Goat
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:59 pm to Ebridg3
I’ll tell you about November of this year.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:02 pm to Ebridg3
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what are the expectations of him next year?
Really, all LSU needs from him is to cut down on mistakes, and run when easy yardage is there and no one is open.
His yardage doesn't need to go up, he just needs to be more efficient. Obviously it's doable.
The threat of a run game, especially in short yardage and the red zone would help him immensely.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:02 pm to Ebridg3
One would assume he would. But we won’t really know until next year.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:04 pm to Ebridg3
He needs to have a couple of these like the last 2 Heisman winners. But but but Lester says Jayden and Joe did it alone and receivers don’t make a big difference in how well a QB plays or completion % or explosive plays. Kinda like Burrow and Daniels had guys that were both deep threats and killers in space on slants, etc.
What he did without a deep threat, losing his intermediate threat, not an explosive receiver, zero running game and put up those numbers was really good.
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What he did without a deep threat, losing his intermediate threat, not an explosive receiver, zero running game and put up those numbers was really good.
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This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:16 pm to Ebridg3
He finished the season completing over 70% each of his last 3 games. His yards per attempt increased and his TD/INT was 7/1.
Hilton now gives him the deep threat that the offense lacked all season. Nic Anderson is a WR with good size at 6'4 and Barion Brown is another speed receiver that's 6'1. Green is 6'7 and Anderson will bounce back from a couple bad plays in the bowl game since he was a reliable target for Nuss all season.
What he and the offense needs more than anything now is a reliable run game.
He'll have the whole offseason, spring and fall camp to study film and clean up the mistakes. If the OL can give him a relatively clean pocket, he should show considerable improvement.
Hilton now gives him the deep threat that the offense lacked all season. Nic Anderson is a WR with good size at 6'4 and Barion Brown is another speed receiver that's 6'1. Green is 6'7 and Anderson will bounce back from a couple bad plays in the bowl game since he was a reliable target for Nuss all season.
What he and the offense needs more than anything now is a reliable run game.
He'll have the whole offseason, spring and fall camp to study film and clean up the mistakes. If the OL can give him a relatively clean pocket, he should show considerable improvement.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:19 pm to Ebridg3
Improve the defense and he won’t have to be better .
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:20 pm to Ebridg3
if he cuts the turnovers in half and takes 5+ yards on improvised runs when available, LSU will be in the playoff and most fans will be happy
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:20 pm to Ebridg3
What do you honestly expect to get as an answer? People shite on Burrow and Daniel’s between their first and second seasons. It really must suck for yall to live so fricking negative with no hope all the time.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:23 pm to Tiger1988
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But but but Lester says Jayden and Joe did it alone and receivers don’t make a big difference in how well a QB plays or completion % or explosive plays.
Nussmeier’s biggest issues were:
1)himself
2) interior pressure over Chester
3) lack of running game
4) WRs
Lacy’s comp% when targeted over 2 seasons with Daniels was 68%.
It dropped to 56% when Nuss was throwing to him in 2024.
Maybe you don’t know how constants & variables work but Lacy was the constant & Nussmeier was the variable
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:34 pm to Lester Earl
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Nussmeier’s biggest issues were:
1)himself
2) interior pressure over Chester
3) lack of running game
Believe it or not, I agree with you here.
quote:
4) WRs
Lacy’s comp% when targeted over 2 seasons with Daniels was 68%.
It dropped to 56% when Nuss was throwing to him in 2024.
Maybe you don’t know how constants & variables work but Lacy was the constant & Nussmeier was the variable
Another variable(s) is Nabers and Thomas. With those 3 on the field at the same time, who are you rolling coverage to? Probably the 2 1st RD WRs.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:37 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Lacy’s comp% when targeted over 2 seasons with Daniels was 68%.
It dropped to 56% when Nuss was throwing to him in 2024.
Maybe you don’t know how constants & variables work but Lacy was the constant & Nussmeier was the variable
That seems a little disingenuous. CJ Daniels caught like 75% of his targets this year - do you think that would have been the case if he were our #1 WR?
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:38 pm to Lester Earl
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Lacy’s comp% when targeted over 2 seasons with Daniels was 68%.
Go back and THINK for a few and edit. He still dropped the shite out of passes.
You’re saying that Lacy, Mr USL transfer, is in the same relative high end quality in terms of route running, explosive running in open space and catch radius of any of these 4 top NFL WRs in Chase, Jefferson, Thomas Jr and Nabers. And that having 1 in Lacy is close to having 2 of those in any combination you want. Geez.
quote:
himself 2) interior pressure over Chester 3) lack of running game
moron.
Chester? Not losing Dellinger mattered or how about having 3 freshmen and NO CJ or CJ coming back after injury.
quote:I’ll put mu
Maybe you don’t know how constants & variables work but Lacy was the constant & Nussmeier was the variable
my ChemE from LSU and MBA from Rice versus your east Baton Rouge public school education.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:39 pm to BayouCowboy
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Another variable(s) is Nabers and Thomas. With those 3 on the field at the same time, who are you rolling coverage to? Probably the 2 1st RD WRs.
Sure
But 12% better? That’s a big number. It’s ok to admit Nussmeier had ball placement & decision making issues independent of who he was throwing it to. It’s hard for me to accept the 1st year QB excuse when this is part of it, and you (not you) can’t admit it was a problem.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:39 pm to Ebridg3
Nuss is really good. We need the rest of the team to get better around him
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:40 pm to Lester Earl
quote:well Lacy also became WR #1 with Nuss, kind of helps when you’re number #3 behind BTJ and Nabers and you’re being covered by a nickel or safety instead of a teams #1 corner. But I do agree Nuss was inconsistent.
Lacy’s comp% when targeted over 2 seasons with Daniels was 68%. It dropped to 56% when Nuss was throwing to him in 2024.
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:50 pm to Ebridg3
Clemson game should tell you all you need to know.
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:55 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
But 12% better? That’s a big number. It’s ok to admit Nussmeier had ball placement & decision making issues independent of who he was throwing it to. It’s hard for me to accept the 1st year QB excuse when this is part of it, and you (not you) can’t admit it was a problem.
If the question is "Was Daniels more accurate and better with ball placement?", you're not getting an argument from me that Daniels wasn't better. As for the 1st year question, do you think 43 starts and a full season with the same pass catchers before 2023, doesn't have a significant benefit?
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:01 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:
If the question is "Was Daniels more accurate and better with ball placement?", you're not getting an argument from me that Daniels was better. As for the 1st year question, do you think 43 starts and a full season with the same pass catchers before 2023, doesn't have a significant benefit?
So losing a receiver in fall camp that didn’t really get back until the bowl game wouldn’t matter? Do you honestly believe the receiver doesn’t impact the “perception” of ball placement? Like Thomas Jr having a FAR bigger catch radius of anyone on the 2024 roster or the fact that both him and Nabers got separation quick making it easier on “placement”. Or the fact that BOTH of them opened up others.
I’m not saying Nuss was as conservative as Daniels, but he couldn’t be because he had shite receivers, no running game, a shitty interior Oline that was goblin for 3 critical games and lost the only underneath route runner in Daniels albeit he is not explosive like a Chase, Nabers or Jefferson.
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