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Rich Eisen and Sark on stupidity of current CFB
Posted on 12/14/24 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 12/14/24 at 12:56 pm
Short video and they discuss Texas getting ready for the playoff and Eisen mentions all that college coaches are dealing with at the same time: end of season / conf champ games / playoff and bowl selection that goes along with signing day and then the portal opening.
Sark says, 'imagine NFL playoffs starting up soon, right when they start, Mahomes, Hurts, Allen, and others are all free agents...that's the world we're living right now.' He mentions how there are multiple entities operating at the same time and not in coordination, such as the Playoff operating while the NCAA operates, separate but not coordinated very well.
Sark says, 'imagine NFL playoffs starting up soon, right when they start, Mahomes, Hurts, Allen, and others are all free agents...that's the world we're living right now.' He mentions how there are multiple entities operating at the same time and not in coordination, such as the Playoff operating while the NCAA operates, separate but not coordinated very well.
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 1:22 pm to POTUS2024
Yep, it’s ridiculous.
Imagine the week before the NFL playoffs start you have the NFL draft and every player becoming a free agent, including everyone on your team.
You’re recruiting, you’re monitoring the portal activity, and trying to keep your players together all while prepping for games? Why is this stupidity set up this way?
College coaches don’t have time to actually coach
Imagine the week before the NFL playoffs start you have the NFL draft and every player becoming a free agent, including everyone on your team.
You’re recruiting, you’re monitoring the portal activity, and trying to keep your players together all while prepping for games? Why is this stupidity set up this way?
College coaches don’t have time to actually coach
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/14/24 at 1:36 pm to Eighteen
quote:because the NCAA put their fingers in their ears and said "lalalalalalalalalala, nothing is gonna happen." So, players sued the in order to be allowed to make money off of their NIL and won. Then, players sued so they could transfer and maintain eligibility regardless of the reason and won.
Why is this stupidity set up this way?
If the NCAA has actually done it's job, we might not be here today. Based on the lawsuits, we'd be here eventually though. I don't know what the answer is if the lawsuits keep going the players way.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 1:39 pm to hashtag
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Then, players sued so they could transfer and maintain eligibility regardless of the reason and won.
Link?
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:17 pm to POTUS2024
The players are also having to worry about studying and taking their finals to prepare for their future. It is just crazy!
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:23 pm to Eighteen
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You’re recruiting, you’re monitoring the portal activity, and trying to keep your players together all while prepping for games? Why is this stupidity set up this way?
Yep. It's absolutely crazy.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:24 pm to POTUS2024
The portal is bad enough. The fact that they open the window during the conference championships/playoffs is an absolute joke.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:26 pm to hashtag
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because the NCAA put their fingers in their ears and said "lalalalalalalalalala, nothing is gonna happen." So, players sued the in order to be allowed to make money off of their NIL and won. Then, players sued so they could transfer and maintain eligibility regardless of the reason and won. If the NCAA has actually done it's job, we might not be here today. Based on the lawsuits, we'd be here eventually though. I don't know what the answer is if the lawsuits keep going the players way.
I dont think there’s anything the NCAA could have done absent not growing the sport. When it became a multi billion dollar business with coaches, networks, and everyone else becoming rich, players were going to want their piece. Giving them a stipend or whatever else years ago wouldn’t have stopped what’s going on now from happening IMO.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:36 pm to lsufball19
You get it. What is happening today was inevitable. But there’s a subset of fans who will always regard players as transitory gladiators who exist only to provide them entertainment instead of the ones actually putting their asses and necks on the line out there.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:41 pm to POTUS2024
They didn't even mention all the coaching changes happening at the same time. It's idiotic.
The early signing period should be in the summer. There should be one portal season & it should be moved back to January unless there is a head coaching change.
The early signing period should be in the summer. There should be one portal season & it should be moved back to January unless there is a head coaching change.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:42 pm to InkStainedWretch
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But there’s a subset of fans who will always regard players as transitory gladiators who exist only to provide them entertainment instead of the ones actually putting their asses and necks on the line out there.
You mean there are fans out there who want to escape for three and a half to four hours from their daily troubles and watch people play football?! The horror!!!
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:46 pm to lsufball19
quote:they may not have been able to prevent it. But they could have controlled it if they introduced it themselves with some guidelines. It would have been less likely to be legally challenged. Or at least, not this early in the process.
I dont think there’s anything the NCAA could have done absent not growing the sport. When it became a multi billion dollar business with coaches, networks, and everyone else becoming rich, players were going to want their piece. Giving them a stipend or whatever else years ago wouldn’t have stopped what’s going on now from happening IMO.
Instead the NCAA put their head in the sand and acted like paying players "was never gonna happen on my watch." And here we are. A system with virtually no limits.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:48 pm to lsufball19
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I dont think there’s anything the NCAA could have done absent not growing the sport. When it became a multi billion dollar business with coaches, networks, and everyone else becoming rich, players were going to want their piece. Giving them a stipend or whatever else years ago wouldn’t have stopped what’s going on now from happening IMO.
Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have worked to put some sort of CBA in place before they lost all the lawsuits. I won't pretend to know what the logistics of that would have been (should it be sport by sport, conference by conference, etc.), but whatever leverage they had back then was way higher before the NIL doors were blown than after.
Something like getting the athletes to agree to "You can negotiate for NIL with businesses and boosters, but once a player begins receiving NIL they must stay with their school for a minimum of two years before transferring or have to sit for a year. Non-NIL athletes can transfer sooner and still play right away." Something like that (or thereabouts) would have seemed fair and reasonable and something fans, teams, players, etc. would have likely agreed upon. But the NCAA was steadfast in their resolve that they wouldn't change things until court intervention forced their hand and now it's the wild west and the players have no reason to make any agreements now that the NIL train is full steam ahead.
Regardless, I think we can all agree that SOMETHING needs to happen. The current system sucks and will only hurt the long term health of the sport. Sure the players of today are reaping the benefits, but if the popularity of the game eventually dwindles then the players of tomorrow will be the ones who end up paying for it.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:49 pm to Adam Banks
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In December, the NCAA proposed this policy in reaction to a West Virginia judge's ruling intended to stop the organization from enforcing its bylaw barring athletes from transferring multiple times and playing right way. The NCAA agreed to terms on a preliminary injunction that runs through at least the end of the academic year. In January, the U.S. Department of Justice joined the lawsuit against the NCAA's transfer rules, a suit that argues that the limitations on transfers violate antitrust law. According to the amended complaint for injunctive relief, filed in January, the NCAA's transfer bylaw "unjustifiably restrains the ability of these college athletes to engage in the market for their labor as NCAA Division I college athletes.
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This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:52 pm to RollTide1987
Nothing whatsoever wrong with that. And I understand without fans watching there’s not a lot of point in this.
But fans seem to be personally offended that the players want a level of ownership in the sport. They act like fans are the only ones who should have that ownership.
But fans seem to be personally offended that the players want a level of ownership in the sport. They act like fans are the only ones who should have that ownership.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:54 pm to POTUS2024
The portal being open now is stupid. Quit pretending they are anything other than professional athletes wearing college jerseys
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:56 pm to IggyReilly
We will reach a point of equilibrium when players agree … they agree, it’s not dictated to them like people want … to rein in the Wild West portal in return for a level of protections from the schools as well. Like players must stay for at least 2 years but the schools can’t kick them out for those two years barring significant misbehavior.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:18 pm to InkStainedWretch
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But fans seem to be personally offended that the players want a level of ownership in the sport. They act like fans are the only ones who should have that ownership.
Fans are okay with players having agency. What they aren't okay with is unrestricted free agency via the transfer portal and unregulated pay for play where the loyalty of a recruit is up to the highest bidder. Everyone is okay with and expects $100 handshakes. What they aren't okay with is $10.5 million being given to a minor to play football.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:59 pm to RollTide1987
College football is just an inferior version of the NFL now.
It used to be cool because they were actually real students at the university. Now it is a complete sham.
We really should just stop watching. The things that gave it charm just do not exist anymore.
It used to be cool because they were actually real students at the university. Now it is a complete sham.
We really should just stop watching. The things that gave it charm just do not exist anymore.
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