Sick of the “personnel” excuse.

South Florida, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and South Carolina held Milroe to under like 20-30 yards rushing

Is he saying he doesn’t have the same caliber personnel as them?

You didn’t have the scheme either which was 10x worse

It’s bad enough when you don’t have the “personnel”, but its 20x worse when they aren’t playing as well as they can.

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South Florida, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and South Carolina held Milroe to under like 20-30 yards rushing Is he saying he doesn’t have the same caliber personnel as them?

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We definitely don’t have the defensive personnel of SC and Tennessee. That’s a fact. Just watch their games. We’d probably be undefeated with their defensive personnel.

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They are regressing. 100% coaching.

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frick off with this shite. They struggle to contain really athletic running QBs. This is not a mystery.

Before the last 6 quarters, they made Weigman look like shite, made Green from Arkansas look worse and held Dart in check better than UGA did. Coaching isn’t the issue with this defense.

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So you think with two weeks off and knowing who we were facing, that's the best this staff could come up with?

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Unless they were willing to roll with a bunch of guys who’ve barely played (and we don’t know why they aren’t on the field or if they would have worked better- they may just not be that good), I’m nit sure what would have been any better. We know what we have in guys like Burns, Ryan, Gilbert and Penn. And they were all just good enough against Ole Miss to keep us in that one. But not this week.

Our defense has one real strength- rushing the passer from multiple positions. Baker has used that to make this defense into something better than it was last season. The stats and rankings all show that. It’s not good enough for LSU, but it’s been an improvement. But I think most of understand there’s a lot of smoke a mirrors there. The pressure gets to QBs, causes mistakes, stops and turnovers, and has covered up some of our other glaring issues. Things like the Safeties, LB speed and depth and the DT talent level and size.

Pressing passing QBs hasn’t been an issue all season. USCe’s Sellers can run and gave us problems. We pressured him and it did cause mistakes and eventually knocked him out, but he also hit us for some big plays. For whatever reason, Dart wasn’t able to take advantage of us blitzing him repeatedly and the pressure really worked on him, but he’s not as fast as Reed and Milroe. Then you had Green from Arkansas, but I think we lucked out there. He was coming off an injury and they didn’t have a single designed run for him all game to use his athleticism and keep us honest.

Then came the 2nd half vs A&M and Reed threw a grenade into our scheme. We can’t blitz a QB with that kind of speed and we struggle badly when sitting back and having to play more reactive. Milroe exposed the same things this week. We brought at least one extra man on two of his TD runs and he made us pay. And when we sat back and played more reactive, he hit a few passes and was still able to get to the edge and find room to run. We had missed gap assignments and didn’t hold the edge.

I’m sure some of you will bring up spying, but who in the frick would you pick for that job on this defense? I really like Weeks, but he’s not fast enough. We saw that Saturday. One wrong twitch and he’s out of the play. Then who? Burns Gilbert

Then you have the fact that our DL really got manhandled for the first time all season. I’ve been impressed with the way they’ve held up in most games, but we got caved in and pushed back multiple times. Go back and watch the film. It’s rough. One of Milroe’s TD runs started because both DTs were completely pushed out of the play.

So I ask you- if your one strength isn’t going to be effective, you don’t have a guy you can count on to spy the QB effectively, and you’re DL is completely overmatched, what is your solution to counteract ALL of that?

I’m sure the staff tried to make a plan to slow Milroe down. But if the players can’t execute it and just get exposed in some of the matchups, it’s not going to work. I think some of you believe coaches can waive a magic wand and make all of these issues we all know are really there disappear, but that’s just not reality.

This game was a terrible matchup for how this defense needs to play to be the best version of itself. If Lagway is still out Saturday, hopefully they can get back to doing what they are good at against UF.

Why'd you only focus on the defense?

Offense and special teams have clearly gotten worse. Again, 100% coaching.

Why in the frick do you run 4 wr deep when your center is getting blown up all game long? Who calls those plays? Who is responsible for taking Caden out of the game near the goal line? Who is responsible for not calling misdirection run plays anymore when they were working just fine?

Vandy hung 40 on this Bama team. You think the problem was the lack of talent on LSU's offense?

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Unless they were willing to roll with a bunch of guys who’ve barely played (and we don’t know why they aren’t on the field or if they would have worked better- they may just not be that good), I’m nit sure what would have been any better. We know what we have in guys like Burns, Ryan, Gilbert and Penn. And they were all just good enough against Ole Miss to keep us in that one. But not this week.

Our defense has one real strength- rushing the passer from multiple positions. Baker has used that to make this defense into something better than it was last season. The stats and rankings all show that. It’s not good enough for LSU, but it’s been an improvement. But I think most of understand there’s a lot of smoke a mirrors there. The pressure gets to QBs, causes mistakes, stops and turnovers, and has covered up some of our other glaring issues. Things like the Safeties, LB speed and depth and the DT talent level and size.

Pressing passing QBs hasn’t been an issue all season. USCe’s Sellers can run and gave us problems. We pressured him and it did cause mistakes and eventually knocked him out, but he also hit us for some big plays. For whatever reason, Dart wasn’t able to take advantage of us blitzing him repeatedly and the pressure really worked on him, but he’s not as fast as Reed and Milroe. Then you had Green from Arkansas, but I think we lucked out there. He was coming off an injury and they didn’t have a single designed run for him all game to use his athleticism and keep us honest.

Then came the 2nd half vs A&M and Reed threw a grenade into our scheme. We can’t blitz a QB with that kind of speed and we struggle badly when sitting back and having to play more reactive. Milroe exposed the same things this week. We brought at least one extra man on two of his TD runs and he made us pay. And when we sat back and played more reactive, he hit a few passes and was still able to get to the edge and find room to run. We had missed gap assignments and didn’t hold the edge.

I’m sure some of you will bring up spying, but who in the frick would you pick for that job on this defense? I really like Weeks, but he’s not fast enough. We saw that Saturday. One wrong twitch and he’s out of the play. Then who? Burns Gilbert

Then you have the fact that our DL really got manhandled for the first time all season. I’ve been impressed with the way they’ve held up in most games, but we got caved in and pushed back multiple times. Go back and watch the film. It’s rough. One of Milroe’s TD runs started because both DTs were completely pushed out of the play.

So I ask you- if your one strength isn’t going to be effective, you don’t have a guy you can count on to spy the QB effectively, and you’re DL is completely overmatched, what is your solution to counteract ALL of that?

I’m sure the staff tried to make a plan to slow Milroe down. But if the players can’t execute it and just get exposed in some of the matchups, it’s not going to work. I think some of you believe coaches can waive a magic wand and make all of these issues we all know are really there disappear, but that’s just not reality.

This game was a terrible matchup for how this defense needs to play to be the best version of itself. If Lagway is still out Saturday, hopefully they can get back to doing what they are good at against UF.

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This is correct.

Most of our starters on defense are either average at best, or extremely young. Couple that with the depth behind them is even more less than average or again, young.

I get what you’re saying the “the personnel” excuses are getting tired, but we don’t have have the guys or the depth on defense and we’re getting shredded. It might not be the only excuse but until we get 2-3 waves of talent rich classes and/or portal hauls (which he’s stated he wouldn’t do) we aren’t going to be great on D.

As someone pointed out, a lot of our starters were starters on one of the worst defenses in school history last year. While I agree with Kelly’s concept of building through recruiting we really have a lot of holes to fill in D and the portal needs to be hit or we’re gonna be lacking/thin again.

On offense I think we need some meaner lineman. We’re not aggressive/dominant at the point of attack. We usually have playmakers and it’ll be interesting to see what Nuss does. I’m not as I worried about the O, not that it’s operating like a well oiled machine but Kelly has proven he can get an O rolling. He needs to realize lsu can and always has been a team that thrives on great D and start fixing that shite now or he’ll be paid handsomely in a few years to leave. I’m not jumping ship yet but this weekend definitely set the alarms off. Some rebuilds are a 3-4 year thing if you’re building for long term success (recruiting) and not win now mode only (portal) to implode the roster again and again. It seems like there needs to be some balance between the 2. We live in a right now world so he’s feeling the wrath, and to some degree rightfully so. Lack of talent or not, that game was embarrassing.

We are slow and not dynamic enough on defense all over the place. It’s easy to see.

We lack a number 1 receiver and several of our guys are more slot backs, who should excel at option routes and short or intermediate over the middle where they can use their quickness but we never throw those.

OL supposedly has some taken but its other positions have been woeful and the talent isnt living up to its rating.

In short, a few good players here and there don’t overcome the shortcomings all over the roster.

KeLLLy recruited these guys for the most part and has had a chance to bring in better guys. It all falls on him.