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5-4. That’s what LSU’s record ought to be.

Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:30 am
Posted by GA Tiger
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:30 am
The only way they beat SC is with some questionable calls.
And they shouldn’t have beat Ole Miss. I do not like Kiffin but he was right when he said, “we should have won that game.”
I do not like the program Kelly is building. We cannot run the ball. You may get by with that at Central Michigan and Notre Dane but you can’t win the SEC like that. He is a good passing coach. Last year is a good example. But against good teams, if they don’t score from 20-30 yards out, they struggle. Because they can’t move anyone off the line. Blake Baker was a good hire with the exception of figuring how to stop the Reed kid Saturday night. And they better get Collins ready. If Nuss goes down, we up a creek.
Posted by Datsmoneydude
Member since Jun 2021
2421 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:32 am to
Well with kiffins logic we “should’ve” beaten USCw and TX am… see how that works
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:33 am to
What is the extra team we should have played to get our ninth game? Aren’t we 6-2?
Posted by BET
Member since Jul 2024
1390 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:34 am to
We are very lucky
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:42 am to
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Blake Baker was a good hire with the exception of figuring how to stop the Reed kid Saturday night


Just to be clear this is a very unfair assessment of Baker. When the backup QB comes in the game it is very difficult for Defenses to adapt. Especially when they are a different style than the starter. Its why it gives the offense a boost because it completely changes how the defense needs to defend them.

If Reed was the starter the entire game and we were game planning for him our defense most likely doesn't have the same issues but because he was inserted middle of 3rd quarter or 2nd series of 3rd quarter whatever it was it led to a momentum shift. Not to mention that his first possession was at the 8yd line going in which is also a huge momentum shift.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:42 am to
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Well with kiffins logic we “should’ve” beaten USCw and TX am… see how that works


You are totally ignoring the point. You are only interested in debating.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3299 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:43 am to
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What is the extra team we should have played to get our ninth game? Aren’t we 6-2?


I think as off on the schedule
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3299 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:45 am to
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Just to be clear this is a very unfair assessment of Baker. When the backup QB comes in the game it is very difficult for Defenses to adapt. Especially when they are a different style than the starter. Its why it gives the offense a boost because it completely changes how the defense needs to defend them. If Reed was the starter the entire game and we were game planning for him our defense most likely doesn't have the same issues but because he was inserted middle of 3rd quarter or 2nd series of 3rd quarter whatever it was it led to a momentum shift. Not to mention that his first possession was at the 8yd line going in which is also a huge momentum shift.


I agree with you on the first couple of series he was in but after that, put a spy on him. When Reed cane in, and saw his speed, they had the “deer in the headlights look.”
Posted by SpeedRacer89
Member since Jan 2024
95 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:53 am to
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The only way they beat SC is with some questionable calls. And they shouldn’t have beat Ole Miss. I do not like Kiffin but he was right when he said, “we should have won that game.” I do not like the program Kelly is building. We cannot run the ball. You may get by with that at Central Michigan and Notre Dane but you can’t win the SEC like that. He is a good passing coach. Last year is a good example. But against good teams, if they don’t score from 20-30 yards out, they struggle. Because they can’t move anyone off the line. Blake Baker was a good hire with the exception of figuring how to stop the Reed kid Saturday night. And they better get Collins ready. If Nuss goes down, we up a creek.


You’re totally right man. We should’ve lost those games and we should judge the season based on what could have happened if not for the things that actually did happen. Now that I think about it did we even really win in 2007? Cause I mean we should’ve lost to Auburn, Florida, and Alabama if not for some super late game heroics. We also might’ve lost to Tennessee if not for a pick six. And we shouldn’t have even been in the championship if all those upsets didn’t happen in the final weekend. We should give back our trophy.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:58 am to
How can that be when they have only played 8 games?
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
5466 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 6:58 am to
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And they shouldn’t have beat Ole Miss
The Ole Miss and South Carolina games could have gone either way.

But to say one team should've or shouldn't have won, whatever team had the most points when time ran out should have and did win.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Pike Road, AL
Member since Mar 2015
4383 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:03 am to
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If Reed was the starter the entire game and we were game planning for him our defense most likely doesn't have the same issues but because he was inserted middle of 3rd quarter or 2nd series of 3rd quarter whatever it was it led to a momentum shift. 


They are paying those guys millions of dollars. It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to understand the importance of preparing for both guys. You had to atleast approach the game thinking they may use some packages for Reed. That was pure coaching incompetence for those guys to be completely lost against the read option. REED THREW 2 PASSES IN TWO FULL QUARTERS!

This season, Texas A&M actually has more game film of Reed than they do for Weigman.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1631 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:13 am to
What a miserable sot you must be.

But we can use your expert analysis in reverse as well. We should have not had to play Alabama again in 2011, so there’s another national championship we have. And we dominated the whole game vs them in 2012 so we win that one as well. Heck I bet Saban’s dynasty never takes hold and Miles wins 4 or 5 national championships. He’s the greatest modern day coach in college football!!
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2297 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:15 am to
Dear Facebook
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85083 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:18 am to
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And they shouldn’t have beat Ole Miss. I do not like Kiffin but he was right when he said, “we should have won that game.”


this might be the dumbest thing I've read on tRant since Saturday and there has been a lot of dumb shite posted on this board in the past few days
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39569 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:21 am to
Georgia should have lost to Kentucky

Alabama should have lost to S. Carolina

Oregon should have lost to Boise

Ohio State should have lost to Nebraska


Should I go on?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:27 am to
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I agree with you on the first couple of series he was in but after that, put a spy on him. When Reed cane in, and saw his speed, they had the “deer in the headlights look.”


Putting a spy on him for the read option wouldn't have changed the outcome. He literally would have been blocked. Spys are only useful in passing situations. In run game they get blocked by the offensive line.

They could have been more aggressive with the ends crashing and have a linebacker looping around the end to contain and take the QB to eliminate the QB run but again the run game was very creative where they were not always reading off the end. Some times it was the tackle. Baker attempted to do a run blitz to eliminate all the gaps and they ran a counter QB read that led to a long run by the running back. So it would have been very difficult to adjust on the sideline. The defensive players needed to get off blocks better.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5618 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:27 am to
In what world did Kelly’s ND teams not be able to run the ball?
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9889 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:28 am to
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They are paying those guys millions of dollars. It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to understand the importance of preparing for both guys.


You do not have enough time to put in 2 fricking game plans.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85083 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 7:29 am to
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put a spy on him.


You have no idea what you are talking about
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