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Olave trade hindsight....
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:11 pm
"Combining the team’s predraft and draft-day trades, the Saints essentially gave up five picks to select Olave: two 2022 third-rounders, a 2022 fourth-rounder, a 2023 first-rounder, and a 2024 second-rounder. That’s an absurd amount of draft capital for a team to surrender for any one player. And it’s especially true when that player is not a quarterback."
Do y'all still think this trade was worth it?
IMO, it was a horrible trade at the time because it gutted your future roster. Few years down the road at it becomes even more obvious how stupid it is to mortgage the future for a borderline #1 WR.
Do y'all still think this trade was worth it?
IMO, it was a horrible trade at the time because it gutted your future roster. Few years down the road at it becomes even more obvious how stupid it is to mortgage the future for a borderline #1 WR.
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:14 pm to Raptordawg
I blame cant blame mike
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:22 pm to Raptordawg
Stay away from Buckeyes and Raiders. Common sense
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:22 pm to Raptordawg
When it happened I thought it was a horrible trade. Olave is a slot receiver. He's damn good, but not a number 1 outside type of receiver.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:24 pm to Raptordawg
Look at the wasted picks over the past seven years and what GM makes it out alive?
Abysmal drafting, cap hell, having to let players like Hendrickson walk, extending aging vets until their kids go to college to spread out the dead money.
Abysmal drafting, cap hell, having to let players like Hendrickson walk, extending aging vets until their kids go to college to spread out the dead money.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:26 pm to Raptordawg
He isn't that dominant possession receiver, I like him but he's an lowend #1/elite #2.
Both that trade and the penning trade were overall horrible.
Both that trade and the penning trade were overall horrible.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:29 pm to Raptordawg
quote:
IMO, it was a horrible trade
This
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:32 pm to Raptordawg
quote:
"Combining the team’s predraft and draft-day trades, the Saints essentially gave up five picks to select Olave: two 2022 third-rounders, a 2022 fourth-rounder, a 2023 first-rounder, and a 2024 second-rounder. That’s an absurd amount of draft capital for a team to surrender for any one player. And it’s especially true when that player is not a quarterback."
The only possible time you make this trade is if the team is one special player away from contention. Making this trade with the Saints clear need to rebuild and gain depth was asinine. Plus, Olave is just not special enough to be worth that kind of trade capital.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:34 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
I’ll take him over Penning, Turner, or Davenport.
He’s a good WR.
Had the Saints stayed where they were, they probably draft Dotson who is a bust.
He’s a good WR.
Had the Saints stayed where they were, they probably draft Dotson who is a bust.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:41 pm to Raptordawg
Was always a horrible trade for a WR that projected at best as a #2 on any legit team.
Mickey and the brain trust of morons literally thought the Saints were a WR away, panicked, and as usual made an awful decision to compound even previous awful decisions.
He could never not be a bust for what he cost, and as a WR, you can expect him to want to get paid well beyond his value in his next contract. Saints will double down on a bad investment and make it worse. It is what they do.
Mickey and the brain trust of morons literally thought the Saints were a WR away, panicked, and as usual made an awful decision to compound even previous awful decisions.
He could never not be a bust for what he cost, and as a WR, you can expect him to want to get paid well beyond his value in his next contract. Saints will double down on a bad investment and make it worse. It is what they do.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:41 pm to Raptordawg
Olave needed to be an all pro that plays on the level of JJ for the trade to have made sense....so before even operating in hindsight, that's a bad bet.
I liked jameson better in that draft but he's had his struggles as well and even if we had taken him, he'd be mostly wasted by our inept qb play.
I liked jameson better in that draft but he's had his struggles as well and even if we had taken him, he'd be mostly wasted by our inept qb play.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:56 pm to Raptordawg
We are getting to the point where Olave has as many concussions as draft picks we gave up to get him. It hurts even more when you think of it like that.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:56 pm to Raptordawg
I was on record saying it was a bad trade and only receiver worth trading up for was his teammate garret Wilson.
Was way to much, but this what happens when people running things, think they are smarter than everyone else.
Olave is a good player, just not worth what we gave up to get him. He does have value though.
Was way to much, but this what happens when people running things, think they are smarter than everyone else.
Olave is a good player, just not worth what we gave up to get him. He does have value though.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:30 pm to Townedrunkard
I can’t count the number of downvotes I got for complaining about olave trade. It was never a good idea.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:09 pm to shaqtaw
If Olave is your WR1, you don't have a WR1.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:37 pm to Patfic15
When the trade happened it was a terrible trade. I said as much at the time Olave basically has to be a Julio Jones/Justin Jefferson level guy to justify that trade.
We sit here with no depth in part because of this trade.
No defense in the nfl is losing sleep over how to defend afraid Olave. It was an awful trade with whatever site you want to use.
We sit here with no depth in part because of this trade.
No defense in the nfl is losing sleep over how to defend afraid Olave. It was an awful trade with whatever site you want to use.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:22 pm to Patfic15
He’s also an awful fit with Carr
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:55 pm to BilJ
Ultimately he goes down as another symbol of leadership thinking they are much closer than they ever really were in the post-sp-db era
They act like they are one piece from a ring but even chips all in they are short of the playoffs even.
At some point they have to be honest with themselves
They act like they are one piece from a ring but even chips all in they are short of the playoffs even.
At some point they have to be honest with themselves
Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:04 pm to ned nederlander
quote:
We sit here with no depth in part because of this trade.
You're giving that trade too much credit, because we don't have depth because of poor drafting decisions.
Think of it this way:
11th overall (1st) - Chris Olave
for
16th overall (1st) - Dotson
98th overall (3rd) - Robinson
120th overall (4th) - traded
You still came out ahead.
Its the Philly portion that completely destroyed you.
16th overall
19th overall
194th overall
for
18th overall (1st) - Burks
101st overall (3rd) - Ruckert
237th overall (7th) - Lucas
AND
2023 1st - Jalen Carter (DT)
2024 2nd
All in all, the trade gave you:
Olave for the cost of an additional 3rd. that wasn't a big deal.
Penning at the cost of an additional 1st and 2nd. that hurt more.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:25 pm to htran90
Trade was unnecessary and awful
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