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You really think they won't steal the election again?

Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14304 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:45 am
I'm not trying to discourage anyone from voting. I'll be voting early for Trump myself. Yet I'm shocked at the overconfidence here. I think many people don't want to accept how evil the left is. They've stolen an election before. They've done everything, including assassination attempts to stop him. There's too much for them to lose if Trump wins. I just can't see them allowing him to win again. Doesn't matter if 90% of the country pulls the lever for Trump... like Bill Clinton said the other day: what matters is who counts the votes.

I hope I'm wrong and I'm just cynical.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4202 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:49 am to
It’s not the Left. It’s the political class and industries in bed with them. “The Swamp”. How many elected republicans came out after the last election to demand transparency? A dozen or two? Fox calling Arizona at 5% returns? Republican governed Georgia’s shenanigans? etc

This isn’t a Left vs Right issue.

And yes I’m voting, but I fully anticipate a count stop in several states election night.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3364 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:49 am to
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I hope I'm wrong and I'm just cynical.


This has essentially been my mindset since 2020. Having said that, however, it has led me to talk politics and open peoples' eyes more than every before if I'm being honest.

So while it sucks to have that mindset, I've used it as motivation.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46031 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:51 am to
yes, but you can only manufacture so many votes. There are records of registrations, so you have to legitimately keep things close enough to steal within the confines of available registrations, or with same0day registrations, within the confines of eligible voters.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:52 am to
They will fraud in big cities for popular vote but they don’t have the protection of covid, masks, workers, mass mail in, etc like last time. A lot of the fraud has been exposed and fixed so they can’t do as much this time.

They know they will lose the EC vote but will argue they won the popular vote to decertify. Yes that’s dumb asf but it’s the dems and projection is a big enough win to use for 4 years that the majority didn’t want Trump.
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
5465 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:53 am to
I'm voting for Trump as well, but they will definitely steal it. I don't understand why anyone would think the establishment would allow arguably one of the most hated men in history to even get near Pennsylvania Ave.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:53 am to
They’ve been exposed. Hilarious they used it on Biden. They should have just let Trump win in 20.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14304 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:54 am to
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yes, but you can only manufacture so many votes. There are records of registrations, so you have to legitimately keep things close enough to steal within the confines of available registrations, or with same0day registrations, within the confines of eligible voters.

What does it matter if there are electronic voting machines that have a "code" that flips ever other Trump vote for Kamala? There's no paper trail to check it. Just because you pull the switch, that doesn't even guarantee your vote counted for Trump.
Posted by Boks
Red Lodge, MT
Member since Jul 2013
1220 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:54 am to
At a minimum, there will be major cheating in Philly, Phoenix, Atlanta, and Detroit. I don't know if there have been enough state legislative/rule changes to help fix this. We'll see.
Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10664 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:54 am to
I'm intrigued by what they're planning if trump hits 270 election night. How do they try to stop the certification after screaming trump is a threat to democracy by threatening the certification.
Posted by Poohter
SW, Mo.
Member since Sep 2009
1733 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:55 am to
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yes, but you can only manufacture so many votes. There are records of registrations, so you have to legitimately keep things close enough to steal within the confines of available registrations, or with same0day registrations, within the confines of eligible voters.


And when the numbers don't add up (again) and you have no standing?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:56 am to
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What does it matter if there are electronic voting machines that have a "code" that flips ever other Trump vote for Kamala? There's no paper trail to check it. Just because you pull the switch, that doesn't even guarantee your vote counted for Trump.


If they do it they will have a hard time having people believe she actually won. Everyone knows that Biden didn’t beat Trump and she’s worse than him.

Not saying they won’t try or can’t I don’t think even Dems are sold on Kamala.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17476 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:56 am to
quote:


I'm not trying to discourage anyone from voting. I'll be voting early for Trump myself. Yet I'm shocked at the overconfidence here. I think many people don't want to accept how evil the left is. They've stolen an election before. They've done everything, including assassination attempts to stop him. There's too much for them to lose if Trump wins. I just can't see them allowing him to win again. Doesn't matter if 90% of the country pulls the lever for Trump... like Bill Clinton said the other day: what matters is who counts the votes.

I hope I'm wrong and I'm just cynical.


Too much attention this go around.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19396 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:58 am to
What are my options? I do not believe my vote matters anymore and hasn’t for some time, but I will still do it. It hurts nothing.
Posted by HoustonTigerNKaty
Member since Aug 2018
869 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:59 am to
They will try. What I feel is different this time (not scientific, pure “gut feeling”:

1. Poll watchers won’t be bullied / intimidated/ forced to leave when the count “stops”- our side was blindsided last time, won’t be this time

2. I think turnout will put cheating % out of range. No matter what happens, 103% of voter turnout gets eyes on the process.

3. There were moderates last election cycle put off by mean tweets, 2 weeks to flatten the curve, hoodwinked by Charlottesville and Normandy, and have a bitter pill in their mouths from Biden-Harris-progfilth governance.

4. Musk, Lara Trump, RFK, Jr all have resources and a big enough stick to swing when things look hanky.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19073 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:00 am to
I agree.

The statists have been getting more and more bold and know they can basically do whatever they want, lie about it and have the MSM cover it up. The only way to thwart it is to have record turn out in red counties in swing states and start dropping law suits in blue counties the minute any shenanigans start to happen.

There’s way too much money at stake to just let the people decide who will be President. Trump has been too vocal about wanting to clean out beaurocracies and ineffective govt employees. Too much manufactured fear and hate.

I predict this election will be so shady that it will come close to breaking the system.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26888 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:01 am to
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but you can only manufacture so many votes.


You wouldn't think so if you listen to a lot of people here.

I still think this will be close and Trump could lose. 10 pts would be a blowout and I hope that's what happens, I just don't expect it.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14304 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:02 am to
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What are my options? I do not believe my vote matters anymore and hasn’t for some time, but I will still do it. It hurts nothing.

I guess it's more along the lines of: once it's stolen again - then what? Will people do anything? Surely if they successfully steal two elections in a row without consequence, they will never think twice about doing it again. I hope people raise hell and demand thorough investigations after the election.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62419 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:03 am to
They will do whatever it takes to steal the election again

We’ve already witnessed it, just look at the editing of Kamala’s interview answers
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
2196 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:04 am to
I think they are punting this election for 2028. I do think the thought of stealing was present at the beginning of Kamala’s campaign though. I just think Trump is surging so late they will lay down this go round.

We will see the 2020 frickery in 2028 though, no doubt in my mind.
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