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If You’re Going to Support Ukraine, Support Them Fully. Otherwise Don’t Send Any Aid
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:36 pm
To try and walk both lines does more harm than good. You can’t play politics with people’s lives in the balance.
I am for responsible aid to Ukraine. This means transfers in USD that are traceable by DOS.
I am also for supplying capabilities that can help them achieve victory and expel invaders from their country. Perhaps this is a better way to mitigate corruption (which has been reduced greatly thanks to steps by Zelenskyy) send them the equipment they need.
Remember, Ukraine is not trying to defeat Russia. They just want them to leave. Supporting Ukraine to the full extent practical sends a message to China that they should carefully consider any moves against Taiwan.
I am for responsible aid to Ukraine. This means transfers in USD that are traceable by DOS.
I am also for supplying capabilities that can help them achieve victory and expel invaders from their country. Perhaps this is a better way to mitigate corruption (which has been reduced greatly thanks to steps by Zelenskyy) send them the equipment they need.
Remember, Ukraine is not trying to defeat Russia. They just want them to leave. Supporting Ukraine to the full extent practical sends a message to China that they should carefully consider any moves against Taiwan.
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:41 pm to RFK
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that can help them achieve victory and expel invaders from their country.
Neither of these things will ever happen. More than 2 years in and you haven’t figured that out?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:42 pm to SloaneRanger
I don’t think the history of the war shows that. They’ve repelled Russia more than anyone thought they could. They’re also occupying Russian territory as we speak.
No one called that two years ago…
No one called that two years ago…
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:42 pm to RFK
If you are going to support the people of Ukraine, the folks who are getting their kids abducted from their homes to go into a meat grinder
End the war. Sue for peace
End the war. Sue for peace
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:44 pm to RFK
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I am for responsible aid to Ukraine
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:45 pm to RFK
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You can’t play politics with people’s lives in the balance.
That’s all you and your fellow neocons do.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:46 pm to RFK
It looks like the choice is:
-slowly bleed out financially
-Nuke Russia
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:47 pm to SloaneRanger
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Neither of these things will ever happen. More than 2 years in and you haven’t figured that out?
There can never be enough dead people for neocons.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:47 pm to RFK
No.
If the CIA want's to continue their nation takeovers they need to go back to running drugs and stay off the taxpayers dime.
If the CIA want's to continue their nation takeovers they need to go back to running drugs and stay off the taxpayers dime.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:47 pm to RFK
You should support them live and in person on the battlefield.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:49 pm to RFK
Go help them then.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:50 pm to RFK
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Ukraine is not trying to defeat Russia
and Russia is not trying to defeat Ukraine.
They are both trying to milk all of the money and supplies that they can from the US and NATO.
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Perhaps this is a better way to mitigate corruption (which has been reduced greatly thanks to steps by Zelenskyy
Zelensky is corrupt. I am glad his country is in such financial need that he feels like he can afford to buy a multimillion-dollar winery in Italy and ask the US taxpayer for more $$$$.
Screw Russia and screw Ukraine.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:51 pm to RFK
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I am for responsible aid to Ukraine. This means transfers in USD that are traceable by DOS.
If you're a taxpayer you didn't need to do anything the government is already giving them your money.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:52 pm to RFK
Not an American problem.
frick Ukraine.
frick Ukraine.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:57 pm to RFK
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Remember, Ukraine is not trying to defeat Russia. They just want them to leave.
This is what we wanted in the south 160 years ago as well. Didn’t work out for us
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:13 pm to RFK
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RFK
Bobby, ever since you outed yourself as a 'sit to piss' beta your takes have gotten exponentially worse.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:15 pm to RFK
Need to send all the warriors of the OT thread there
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:21 pm to OBReb6
They invaded some woods in the north, and used their best troops to do it, while bragging to the world.
Meanwhile Russia is crushing the center and are just miles from one of the most critical logistical cities on the front.
What they didnt thief they have squandered in aide. They were given enough weapons that Barney Fife could have taken Europe by now.....and they have lost 20% of their country. So he screams for f-16s and then crashes them.
They have such support that 20% of their population has left rather than be kidnapped and killed at the front.
And yes after all the thiefing, the 70 million dollar vineyard in Italy is just a bold faced FU to Americans. Yes I know, he did not buy it......but the company he owned bought it, but that part was left out of the news.
Meanwhile Russia is crushing the center and are just miles from one of the most critical logistical cities on the front.
What they didnt thief they have squandered in aide. They were given enough weapons that Barney Fife could have taken Europe by now.....and they have lost 20% of their country. So he screams for f-16s and then crashes them.
They have such support that 20% of their population has left rather than be kidnapped and killed at the front.
And yes after all the thiefing, the 70 million dollar vineyard in Italy is just a bold faced FU to Americans. Yes I know, he did not buy it......but the company he owned bought it, but that part was left out of the news.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:40 pm to RFK
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If You’re Going to Support Ukraine, Support Them Fully. Otherwise Don’t Send Any Aid
Works for me. Not one more red cent needs to go to them and their corrupt leader. Not one.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:51 pm to RFK
You are entitled to your opinion but pull your head out! Zero US taxpayer dollars to the most corrupt regime in Europe. NATO needs a bitch slap from those that pay for their worthless asses. Trump had those euros in a panic. Hopefully he can double down and put the screws to those grifters.
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