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Defensive HAVOC rate
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:15 pm
In 2023, LSUs defensive HAVOC rate was 15.6%.
In game 1 under Baker, our rate was 44.8%.
This is something I’d like to track throughout the season.
In game 1 under Baker, our rate was 44.8%.
This is something I’d like to track throughout the season.
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Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:18 pm to DBG
Interesting. Out of curiosity how is this calculated? And where are you getting this data from?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:18 pm to DBG
Thank you for bringing new information to the board for discussion. No sarcasm. Thank you.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:20 pm to CheeseTiger251
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Interesting. Out of curiosity how is this calculated? And where are you getting this data from?
And I'm assuming the higher the % the better?
Never ever heard of this "stat" before. Appreciate the info!
My own eyes told me the defense was already better than last year 1 game in.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:20 pm to DBG
Anyone paying attention at all could see a big change in defense.
Unfortunately some of the same issues are still there - we will see how they improve but they may be more personnel limitations than scheme issues. Key will be How baker adjusts to limitations.
Unfortunately some of the same issues are still there - we will see how they improve but they may be more personnel limitations than scheme issues. Key will be How baker adjusts to limitations.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:20 pm to CheeseTiger251
Interceptions + PBU + TFLs + Fumbles + Sacks + QB Hits + Failed 3rd Downs + Failed 4th Downs divided by Total Plays
Just skimmed the box score
Just skimmed the box score
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:25 pm to DBG
quote:not trying to be dick, but even if this new HAVOC stat is a meaningful metric, we still gave up 7.7 yards per play, and 139 yards on 11 plays and 2 TDs on USC's last 2 possessions.
In 2023, LSUs defensive HAVOC rate was 15.6%.
In game 1 under Baker, our rate was 44.8%.
This is something I’d like to track throughout the season.
Now yes, I realize USC probably has a very good offense, but those defensive stats I mentioned aren't good at all.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:34 pm to atltiger6487
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not trying to be dick, but even if this new HAVOC stat is a meaningful metric, we still gave up 7.7 yards per play, and 139 yards on 11 plays and 2 TDs on USC's last 2 possessions. Now yes, I realize USC probably has a very good offense, but those defensive stats I mentioned aren't good at all.
Hey numb nuts, we had the worst defense in school history last season and had games where we literally didn’t make a stop in the second half of games.
This defense gave you 2 stops in a row WITH A LEAD and the offense couldn’t put the game away.
This unit will only get better as well, relax.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:34 pm to DBG
quote:Too bad it’s not divided by zero. We’d be infinitely better.
Interceptions + PBU + TFLs + Fumbles + Sacks + QB Hits + Failed 3rd Downs + Failed 4th Downs divided by Total Plays
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:35 pm to DBG
I remember hearing TBob and Hester discussing this last week. Baker said his goal for the team for the year would be 25%. He had about a 20% rate at Missouri.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:36 pm to atltiger6487
Getting possession on one or some of those potential turnovers would've had an impact on the game, despite the yards.
An honest assessment of personnel on defense indicates that there are going to be games in which a lot of yards will be gained. That's able to be made up for to some degree with havoc plays and turnovers.
An honest assessment of personnel on defense indicates that there are going to be games in which a lot of yards will be gained. That's able to be made up for to some degree with havoc plays and turnovers.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:44 pm to DBG
eta: my b I think that's at halftime
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:56 pm to Loup
No it’s the full game, they just have LSU’s pass breakups as zero and don’t have QB hits in the equation
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:59 pm to DBG
You could absolutely tell the the difference in HOW the defense was playing. Guys were getting after it, I just wonder where the missing link is.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:01 pm to Tigerstark
quote:Yep. Actual pressure on be QB. And then the PI calls out DBs were where they were supposed to be, they just need to turn around. Last year they wouldn’t have been called for PI because they wouldnt have known where they needed to be and would have been 10 yards away from the receiver.
Anyone paying attention at all could see a big change in defense.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:06 pm to atltiger6487
quote:It isn’t new.
but even if this new HAVOC stat is a meaningful metric,
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:08 pm to DBG
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In 2023, LSUs defensive HAVOC rate was 15.6%. In game 1 under Baker, our rate was 44.8%.
This is huge, and I agree with your post.
Blake Baker is a very aggressive DC, and has been since his time at LA Tech. He allows his players to play fast and loose.
It took us all of 6 months to turn around the defense, and it directly relates to the coaches we have on that side of the ball now. I believe LSU has a staff on defense capable of winning a Championship now.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:08 pm to MOT
We were so close to having 3-4 turnovers caused in the USC game
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:08 pm to DBG
THE LIMIT DOES NOT EXIST
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:16 pm to TeachemMeachem17
If only 1/4 of those bounce our way we win despite the flaccid playcalling and USC firing on all cylinders, it's sickening how close we really were.
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