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What is stopping Russia from using high altitude heavy bombers on Ukraine?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:59 pm
Is it capability? Ukraine air defense? Or political blow back if they started WW2/Vietnam bombing campaigns?
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:07 pm to GREENHEAD22
Either capability or they’re actually nervous about NATO intervention if they do.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:10 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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nervous about NATO intervention if they do.
Yeah
If NATO intervenes the war won't last very long. Russia would get run the frick over in a matter of weeks.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:10 pm to GREENHEAD22
I assume they do not want the bad press. That could make their allies especially China backaway from their support.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:13 pm to GREENHEAD22
They don't have any worth a shite.
Newsflash: the Russians possess an aging military with technology that hasn't been updated since the end of the Cold War.
Newsflash: the Russians possess an aging military with technology that hasn't been updated since the end of the Cold War.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:15 pm to GREENHEAD22
They would be sitting ducks with the anti aircraft goodies Brandon sent over. Don’t forget intel we are giving them.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:24 pm to Da Sheik
Yep. One patriot battery would eat them alive.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:33 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Ukraine air defense?
This.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:34 pm to Powerman
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Yeah If NATO intervenes the war won't last very long. Russia would get run the frick over in a matter of weeks.
You mean the US, lol. NATO is a paper tiger without the US backing it.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:42 pm to Powerman
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If NATO intervenes the war won't last very long. Russia would get run the frick over in a matter of weeks.
How would NATO get into the theater? We haven't had to deal with a contested entry into theater since WWII.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:42 pm to RollTide1987
Saw a couple of TU-95s landing at Barksdale in the early 90s. I was umpiring a baseball game under the approach.
Scared the crap out of most of the people at the ballpark.
Scared the crap out of most of the people at the ballpark.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:45 pm to GREENHEAD22
The Russian’s still fly these…
While the Ukrainians have these…
Flying a lumbering high altitude bomber over airspace with modern air defense is suicide. Add in the fact bombers can launch cruise missiles from “standoff” ranges, and those cruise missiles are far more accurate than standard bombs, you begin to understand why the days of high altitude bombers flying over enemy airspace to drop a payload of 500 lb bombs is long gone.
While the Ukrainians have these…
Flying a lumbering high altitude bomber over airspace with modern air defense is suicide. Add in the fact bombers can launch cruise missiles from “standoff” ranges, and those cruise missiles are far more accurate than standard bombs, you begin to understand why the days of high altitude bombers flying over enemy airspace to drop a payload of 500 lb bombs is long gone.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:45 pm to GREENHEAD22
Russia is making good and cheap use of their current big stock of FABS. They have just upgraded them to a longer more accurate wing package. Seems like a safer route than long range high altitude bombers.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:48 pm to GREENHEAD22
The baw Putin said he didn’t want to level the place shortly after kickoff. 
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:48 pm to Powerman
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nervous about NATO intervention if they do. Yeah If NATO intervenes the war won't last very long. Russia would get run the frick over in a matter of weeks.
I will give you another scenario. If nato gets involved Russia nukes everyone. That have more nuclear weapons than everyone else combined.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:49 pm to GREENHEAD22
I personally don't think Russia's army is very well equipped.....IMO
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:50 pm to GREENHEAD22
It’s amazing to me how anyone believes anything they hear regarding that bullshite.
How many times do you have to be blatantly lied to before you stop believing it? Another $200billion to Ukraine enough to “defeat the Russians”
No one in America knows what is going on over there and there’s a reason for that. We’re being robbed blind and that’s the only thing any American should be worried about
How many times do you have to be blatantly lied to before you stop believing it? Another $200billion to Ukraine enough to “defeat the Russians”
No one in America knows what is going on over there and there’s a reason for that. We’re being robbed blind and that’s the only thing any American should be worried about
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:55 pm to GREENHEAD22
What’s stopping them? Mainly S-300V and Patriot PAC-2 missile systems.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:58 pm to Powerman
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If NATO intervenes the war won't last very long. Russia would get run the frick over in a matter of weeks.
I’m sure NATO would dominate Russia or even Russia plus every other non-NATO country in the world, however, I believe that if there was not a single Russian soldier or piece of military equipment in Russia we still could not overrun it in a matter of weeks.
We are incompetent. Luckily they are worse.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:59 pm to GREENHEAD22
The Patriot can achieve almost twice the altitude of a Bear, and the Bear’s maximum speed is 575 mph.
Easy interception and certain death.
Not to mention iron bomb accuracy issues from 45,000 feet.
Easy interception and certain death.
Not to mention iron bomb accuracy issues from 45,000 feet.
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