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I think we need to just be honest, since 2019 we are no longer “elite”
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:38 pm
Are we good, yea we are good, but we are not elite. We are 4th or 5th in the SEC now and are realistically a #15-20 school year in and year out now. No shame in that. We will still win 8/9 games with the occasional 10 win season and the powers that be are happy with that bc there’s no real scandals and it’s a “clean” program. It’s who LSU football is for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 2:39 pm
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:39 pm to gsvar2004
The frustration with LSU sports is there's no consistency from year to year. It's either a championship team or a team that's frustrating to watch.
I've seen it with both football and baseball after championship runs, and yes while we had great players leave, we don't seem to have a system in place where we just reload.
I've seen it with both football and baseball after championship runs, and yes while we had great players leave, we don't seem to have a system in place where we just reload.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:39 pm to gsvar2004
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I think we need to just be honest, since 2019 we are not longer “elite
Well if we are being honest, we were not elite before 2019. That year was a fluke, lightning in a bottle.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:42 pm to gsvar2004
We haven’t been an elite program since 2011. 2019 was an anomaly. BK will just continue the regression. LSU is slowly falling to the has been status
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:43 pm to gsvar2004
But we certainly don't want to be honest about that lol
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:43 pm to gsvar2004
What is your definition of "elite", and what program outside of Georgia meets that criteria of late?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:43 pm to gsvar2004
Currently.
Let’s be honest, the 2019 defense overachieved and since then our talent went downhill quickly. We’ve had some guys at QB (obviously), TE and WR, but RB, DL, CB and S have been a void. And our OL has been mid.
I like the way Kelly has recruited and developed. We just aren’t that talented yet. The portal has made everyone think you can turn things around in a season, but that’s not really how it works. Kelly has had to build this thing up from the rubble that O left.
Let’s be honest, the 2019 defense overachieved and since then our talent went downhill quickly. We’ve had some guys at QB (obviously), TE and WR, but RB, DL, CB and S have been a void. And our OL has been mid.
I like the way Kelly has recruited and developed. We just aren’t that talented yet. The portal has made everyone think you can turn things around in a season, but that’s not really how it works. Kelly has had to build this thing up from the rubble that O left.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:43 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Well if we are being honest, we were not elite before 2019. That year was a fluke, lightning in a bottle.
LSU 2003-2007 was really the only "elite" period.
2010-2016 was a run where LSU was "very good" - just about a top 15 team with 2011 thrown in there.
This appears to be the same type of program that got Miles fired, frankly.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:44 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
Not elite. Just had the most national championships outside Bama. Just had the number 1 offense and another heisman winner last year. Yeah, "not elite". Then who the frick is.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:45 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
We were elite from the Saban years to the early Miles years. And then 2019. Kelly is just a good coach who doesn’t have what it takes to pull off more than a good win here and there. Not good enough to win 3 or 4 big games in a row to win a championship. Definitely not an elite coach.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:45 pm to gsvar2004
If we played cupcakes week 1, the perception of the program would be way different. Two 10-2 seasons.
We just gotta cut out these games
We just gotta cut out these games
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:45 pm to gsvar2004
Its not complicated. New QB, new defensive staff, and suspect secondary. We have been a fringe playoff team all off season. This loss wasn't shocking. I hated to lose, but we looked better than last year.
We are on a good path with this staff, now just need to keep this staff in tact.
We are on a good path with this staff, now just need to keep this staff in tact.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:46 pm to TigerKnights
How many games did the heisman winner win last year??
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:46 pm to TigerKnights
Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State. In the conversation year after year. A lot of folks simply want LSU to be in that discussion as well. The truth is they aren't.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:46 pm to gsvar2004
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How many games did the heisman winner win last year??
How many would they with this defense? How many do we win next year if Nuss returns with all the recruits coming in and this years team having the whole season to develop?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:48 pm to gsvar2004
We were elite from 2003 through 2012 ish. Since then we have been a good program with a miracle year in 2019. Right now we are about like we were in the late Miles/early Orgeron years.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:48 pm to gsvar2004
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since 2019 we are no longer “elite”
2019 was an outlier
This program hasn't been elite in well over a decade
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:48 pm to gsvar2004
I’m sorry but did you think we’ve been elite? 
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:48 pm to extremelsu
We need to either cut the good games out for week 1, or get a coach who win them.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:48 pm to southsidedell
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Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State
These 3 and who else? And realistically how often have those conversations been anything other than hype? Bama misses the playoffs. Georgia misses the playoffs. Ohio State has sucked several years. Clemson fell off a cliff. Bama is likely next under Deboring. So really just Georgia? And what if they drop 2 or 3 now that they don't have the cupcake east carrying them?
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