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Found the reason why crime is down in the US
Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:49 pm
FBI went to a new reporting system and.......
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More than 6,000 law enforcement agencies were missing from the FBI’s national crime data last year, representing nearly one-third of the nation’s 18,000 police agencies. This means a quarter of the U.S. population wasn't represented in the federal crime data last year, according to The Marshall Project’s analysis.
Thats not moving the goal posts, thats changing the entire stadium.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:08 am to trinidadtiger
You knew this was going to happen. The data doesn’t agree with their narrative.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:18 am to JCdawg
The data they report does agree with their narrative. It’s the truth and what is actually happening that doesn’t agree with their narrative.
Also, reclassifying crime has had a huge affect and lowering the bar on what is prosecuted has manipulated what’s recorded.
Also, reclassifying crime has had a huge affect and lowering the bar on what is prosecuted has manipulated what’s recorded.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:31 am to trinidadtiger
Our data is as fake as our news.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 1:48 am to trinidadtiger
Does the fbi have any redeemable qualities at all? I’d rather flush them down the shite hole permanently.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:17 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
To your point RockyMtn,
Id have to go look it up but I saw where chicago had classified a good portion of car jacking as something ignorant like unlawful entry which made it akin to trespassing and thus a misdemeanor.
Id have to go look it up but I saw where chicago had classified a good portion of car jacking as something ignorant like unlawful entry which made it akin to trespassing and thus a misdemeanor.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:17 am to trinidadtiger
This has been known for awhile. If you don't report crime it's like it didn't happen
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:22 am to trinidadtiger
Did you intentionally leave out the fact that the transition to NIBRS began in 2015 and went into effect on January 1, 2021?
Yes, the way crime is being reported changed and there are large departments who have not yet transitioned to it. I think you know that though if you found the one paragraph that fits your agenda.
There's so many other things to go after with this administration for, you don't have to make shite up by pretending this is a Biden change.
Yes, the way crime is being reported changed and there are large departments who have not yet transitioned to it. I think you know that though if you found the one paragraph that fits your agenda.
There's so many other things to go after with this administration for, you don't have to make shite up by pretending this is a Biden change.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:42 am to trinidadtiger
They had to change the method.


Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:47 am to trinidadtiger
I’m in the Public Safety software business. Here is what I know.
UCR summary reporting was the reporting standard up until the late 90’s. NIBRS ( incident based reporting system} was developed as better way to more accurately report crime. It’s incident based and not summary. States started transitioning to NIBRS 20 years ago. It’s more complicated and expensive so the FBI didn’t mandate the change until 2021.
Each state has its own flavor of IBR. LA has a more complicated method of reporting than the FBI standard.
Many larger cities like New Orleans aren’t reporting IBR for various reasons.
The FBi decided a few years ago to fill in the missing data with Data modeling. They are taking complex algorithms to create the “missing data”. Everyone outside of the FBI thinks this is crazy because it’s almost impossible to data model crime with any degree of certainty.
I compare this to weather forecast. Predicting rain in the forecast is one thing. Predicting we will get 3.6543 inches of rain is a little more difficult. Also it allows for human error and biases to come into play.
UCR summary reporting was the reporting standard up until the late 90’s. NIBRS ( incident based reporting system} was developed as better way to more accurately report crime. It’s incident based and not summary. States started transitioning to NIBRS 20 years ago. It’s more complicated and expensive so the FBI didn’t mandate the change until 2021.
Each state has its own flavor of IBR. LA has a more complicated method of reporting than the FBI standard.
Many larger cities like New Orleans aren’t reporting IBR for various reasons.
The FBi decided a few years ago to fill in the missing data with Data modeling. They are taking complex algorithms to create the “missing data”. Everyone outside of the FBI thinks this is crazy because it’s almost impossible to data model crime with any degree of certainty.
I compare this to weather forecast. Predicting rain in the forecast is one thing. Predicting we will get 3.6543 inches of rain is a little more difficult. Also it allows for human error and biases to come into play.
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 5:52 am
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:58 am to trinidadtiger
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Found the reason why crime is down in the US
The media says its down because the incumbent is a Democrat. That would be your most likely answer.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:34 am to trinidadtiger
Can you please add a link?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:37 am to lsufan1971
Can confirm. And the models - much like the climate models - are goal-seeking garbage. They pay off some university researchers to give it an academic veneer.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:38 am to trinidadtiger
Can't have crime if you don't report crime
Posted on 8/31/24 at 6:50 am to Breaux
The fbi changed the system and software and the cities have change their system and software at their own expense in order to report the data.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:01 am to mauser
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and the cities have change their system and software at their own expense in order to report the data.
A crap ton of agencies still haven't moved to NIBRS reporting. That's why there's so much missing data. I know of at least two in my area that aren't NIBRS compliant.
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