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Do people forget Trump has to win a national election and not a Republican primary.

Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:03 am
Posted by RaoulDuke504
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:03 am
You have to appeal to tge 52% of democrats in this country. Trump has to say things on abortion and IVF which is his greatest weakness to independent voters. Why do conservatives want him to lose an election to please them and say ban abortions?
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:05 am to
Concern Troll
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:06 am to
Maybe morals mean something to some people. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:07 am to
Cool stick to your morals lose the election and they will put abortion vans on every corner
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:08 am to
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Do people forget Trump has to win a national election and not a Republican primary.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:08 am to
There's a line between "abortion is no longer a national issue" or "I think 6 weeks is a bit short" and "I now support abortion up until the moment of birth, tax payer funded, and no parental consent"

The vast majority of Americans do not support abortion at the 9 month mark.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:08 am to
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Cool stick to your morals lose the election


Anyone that supports 9 month abortions was never going to vote for a Republican for President.
This post was edited on 8/30/24 at 9:09 am
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:10 am to
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Cool stick to your morals


I will.

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lose the election


I'm voting Trump and so will Texas.

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they will put abortion vans on every corner


States rights, go back to school.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:10 am to
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There's a line between "abortion is no longer a national issue" or "I think 6 weeks is a bit short" and "I now support abortion up until the moment of birth, tax payer funded, and no parental consent"

The vast majority of Americans do not support abortion at the 9 month mark.


Who cares what Trump personally thinks. He is responsible for that determination to be handed back down to the states where it should be. Social conservatives melting over Trump's personal opinions are missing the forest for the trees.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:10 am to
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Cool stick to your morals lose the election and they will put abortion vans on every corner


Trump to support putting tampons in the boys room next
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:13 am to
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Who cares what Trump personally thinks. He is responsible for that determination to be handed back down to the states where it should be. Social conservatives melting over Trump's personal opinions are missing the forest for the trees.



I agree with you, but the specific issue HERE is specifically a state amendment, in the state where he votes.

Its a horrific Amendment that was written and supported by Soros.

It enshrines as a right in the Florida Constitution NO restrictions on abortion at all, and tax payer assistance to get abortions.


Soros knew what he was doing when he got this on the ballot. He wanted to force Trump on the record on it, while hiding what is actually in the bill.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:15 am to
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Do people forget Trump has to win a national election and not a Republican primary.by RaoulDuke504
You have to appeal to tge 52% of democrats in this country.


I know it's rhetorical, but are democrats all fricking retarded or something? By this I mean, do democrats realize the options are Trump (oh no, how horrible and mean) and Kamala? Do democrats let their toddlers run their house and make all decisions?
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:16 am to
If the Dems mention the subject, Trump should just keep saying the same thing- "It is not a Federal issue, it is a State issue".
The only concern is if Kameltoe comes out and actively says she will stack the SCOTUS in order to gain a liberal majority.
That could be catastrophic for the future of America, but most people are just to dumb to realize...
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:17 am to
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You have to appeal to tge 52% of democrats in this country.

No.

You don't.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:18 am to
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Cool stick to your morals lose the election and they will put abortion vans on every corner


Then why have a platform all? Just be a fulll fledged democrat. You win!

I’m not sure what y’all even care about at this point.

My goal isn’t Trump winning. He’s a means to an end for me. But if he changes the end to justify the means, that’s not good for me, hoss.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:19 am to
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It enshrines as a right in the Florida Constitution NO restrictions on abortion at all


Unless I'm missing something, I believe you are mischaracterizing what the amendment says.
quote:

Ballot Title: Amendment to Limit Government Interference with Abortion

Ballot Summary: No law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider. This amendment does not change the Legislature’s constitutional authority to require notification to a parent or guardian before a minor has an abortion.

Article and Section Being Created or Amended:  Creates - Article 1, New Section

Full Text of the Proposed Amendment: New Section, Amendment to Limit Government Interference with Abortion   

Limiting government interference with abortion.— Except as provided in Article X, Section 22, no law shall prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider.


Posted by Bonkers119
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:19 am to
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Trump has to say things on abortion and IVF which is his greatest weakness to independent voters


He knows he's getting crushed in the polls, that's why he's saying these things. Independent voters aren't stupid, they know what republicans really want to do. It's all laid out in Project 2025.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127733 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:20 am to
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If the Dems mention the subject, Trump should just keep saying the same thing- "It is not a Federal issue, it is a State issue".



The specific thing we are talking about though is...a State Amendment. IN the state where he votes.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:21 am to
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You have to appeal to tge 52% of democrats in this country. Trump has to say things on abortion and IVF which is his greatest weakness to independent voters. Why do conservatives want him to lose an election to please them and say ban abortions?


This is just more MAGA gaslighting

Conservatives are just continually going along with MAGA and taking punches to the gut repeatedly. There is no meaningful demand for Trump to say ban abortions, they would be perfectly happy with a compromise of Trump just sticking to the script on states.

Not throwing Florida pro-lifers under the bus, not talking about "reproductive freedom", not sending out MAGA influencers to demonize pro-life groups, etc.

The pro-life community isn't making the noise, the campaign is making the noise in a misguided effort to draw over women who aren't voting for him.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26758 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 9:22 am to
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or when necessary to protect the patient’s health, as determined by the patient’s healthcare provider.


Do you understand what that means? Do you think "health" was just a word they used for the hell of it?
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