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Debt consolidation

Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:44 pm
Posted by AuBeerStud
Michigan
Member since Feb 2013
265 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:44 pm
I know you guys are smart with your money and never had to deal with this, but I was wondering if any of you have had to do debt consolidation? If so, any advice? Or is it a bad idea?

I have a little girl with medical problems and we’ve paid a grand here or five grand here on credit cards. It’s ballooned to over 30 grand. Now everything is getting to a point where I’m not sure if we tackle it anymore.

Looking back, I wonder if I should have used some of my 401k to pay the medical bills. I can only touch it for medical bills or to buy a house. We’ve tighten the budget a ton, but its one thing after another hitting us right now. (Medical stuff for girls). Any advice is appreciated.

Married dude w/ wife
2 kids, one with medical conditions
I make around $150,000 a year
House with 2.3 APR (so refinancing and taking equity from home is last terrible resort)

Thanks for any solid advice!
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75859 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:45 pm to
If you can get a lower interest rate, yes.
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1371 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:05 pm to
Do you suspect the medical debt will grow more?

Can you meet the monthly CC minimum payments or put more down to top of the monthly payments?

Paying $650/month on $30k in CC debt at 25% APR will take 13 years to pay off with the total amount of payments exceeding $72k at the end of the 13 years.

If you can take a loan against 401k, do that and pay off the CC medical debt and make an effort to repay the 401k loan ASAP.

Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
23032 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:13 pm to
You could apply for a HELOC to get equity out of the house.
Posted by AuBeerStud
Michigan
Member since Feb 2013
265 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:29 pm to
I can’t take a loan off my 401k unless it’s for medical or to buy a house, to my knowledge. I’ve already put the medical bills on the cards. Yes, I expect more medical bills. I’ve never heard of HELOC, will check it out.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
2087 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:56 pm to
What about a debt consolidation loan? I think SoFi offers them and other similar companies. I know Amex does private loans as well that would cover that at a much lower rate.
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23584 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 4:52 am to
Equity in home? Do a HELOC
Otherwise, do an unsecured loan

Just be careful about going back to CC’s
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19296 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 7:21 am to
Never heard of limitations on why you need to take a 401k loan, but I suppose they could exist. But before assuming, I’d ask and would be prepared to provide invoices/receipts to prove it’s medically related.

One thing to watch with debt consolidation loans is they may demand/insist you close all active credit cards, which could be a problem if you anticipate continued expenses.

Unsecured loan may be the best option (assuming 401k is out) for past debt. For future medical bills, could you just have the facility bill you? Then you can make small payments towards the balance each month, and as long as you’re paying they won’t push you to collections and may even offer a reduced amount to settle it and get it off of their books
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9692 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:11 am to
quote:

I have a little girl with medical problems


Sorry you're going through this

quote:

It’s ballooned to over 30 grand. Now everything is getting to a point where I’m not sure if we tackle it anymore.


quote:

I make around $150,000 a year



Live on $120,000 for a year and pay off the 30
Posted by Miglez
Member since Jan 2018
535 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Live on $120,000 for a year and pay off the 30



Seems like the best solution. Just suck it up for a year, no vacations or fancy dinners, instead of pulling money out the 401K or paying interest for years on the CC debt.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53508 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 12:17 pm to
Yeah, depending on other factors, $30k of debt on $150k salary should be very manageable.

Definitely look at other expenses. See if you can get out of a car note by trading in on a used car.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
1327 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 1:30 pm to
There a thing called taxes, etc.

File BK on just the cc’s, agree to pay everything else as is. It’s unsecured debt
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
9692 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

There a thing called taxes, etc.

File BK on just the cc’s, agree to pay everything else as is. It’s unsecured debt


Yeah, so? There are taxes on a $150,000 salary too. Filing bankruptcy on $30k debt making 150 is insane.

I bet OP has a truck note he can get rid of and make it even easier.
This post was edited on 8/25/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
1327 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 1:47 pm to
It may be insane, may not.

BK is based off of DEBTS, and income. Just bc you make a lot, doesn’t mean you don’t qualify.

Seems like a pretty reasonable reason to use the law as it’s wrote , if qualified.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53508 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

It may be insane, may not. BK is based off of DEBTS, and income. Just bc you make a lot, doesn’t mean you don’t qualify. Seems like a pretty reasonable reason to use the law as it’s wrote , if qualified.


It is not very reasonable at all given his situation.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
1327 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 2:21 pm to
Please explain. Honestly, why not?
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6941 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 2:40 pm to
Because all he has to do is spend less money, and take that money and apply it to the debt.

We're not talking about 300k making 150k. We're talking about 30k.

I could make a plan and have that wiped out in 18 months.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
1327 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 2:48 pm to
I could as well.

Maybe he can’t , idk. Just an option
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37722 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

File BK on just the cc’s, agree to pay everything else as is. It’s unsecured debt


I'm not sure you understand how bankruptcy works.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37722 posts
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Live on $120,000 for a year and pay off the 30


He makes 150k. That doesn't mean he takes home 150k.
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