Sleeper trade: Ingram for Jerami Grant, Robert Williams III and 2 second round picks

There's another silly trade on BR that sends Ingram to the Lakers, Williams III, Wood and Simons to the Pels and a bunch of Lakers trash and Hawkins to the Blazers.

I don't see it happening.

No way the Pels want Wood and not sure why the Lakers would want Ingram.

He doesn't fit at all.

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Trade has its risks, but shite Boston gambled on theirs with Porzingis health and it worked out for them... Gotta take calculated risk to win. I like the move and doesn't cost us the farm, plus locks in an All-Star caliber player for 4 years at marketrate.

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Bro Jerami Grant is a PF. We cant spend 30mil on another player that ISNT a center after agreeing that we shouldn't pay BI.

More so if the argument is "it gets us Williams". Then that's a stupid argument. Porzingus is a different player than both of those guys and its not even a comparison.

If we do this trade Ayton is coming back because he's the player that actually makes sense.

Trading BI for players that don't make us better AND getting 0 picks back is a fricking terrible trade.

Have a good Sunday.

On his podcast this week, Sam Vecenie suggested Ingram to the nets for Cam Johnson, Sharpe, and fillers. The reason we’d do it is obvious, but Im not convinced the Nets would. He argued the Nets should consider it because they can then sell off Finny-Smith, Schroder, etc., but still tank since BI and Claxton still won’t be good enough to get them out of a top pick.

If some semblance of this trade was on the table I think we would’ve pulled the trigger a long time ago, but it’s the best realistic option out of everything I’ve heard pitched lately.

I mostly agree and we’ve talked about this before. Letting BI “walk” (which I think at the very least we will work a sign-and-trade for small compensation) isn’t the worst case scenario. But I think there are realistic ways that a trade could be worse than an overpay.

I’ve posted this before the offseason even started. I’d rank the scenarios from best to worst as:

1. Trade BI for pieces that better fit with our current roster and give us ability to keep Trey

2. Resign BI to a reasonable deal that allows us to rehab his value and trade him later

3. Let BI “walk” for minimum compensation

4. Resign BI to a deal that is an overpay

5. Trade BI with other valuable assets for pieces that make us marginally better but lowers our future ceiling and flexibility

The way this is going, I imagine we will have future discussions on what is an “overpay” vs “reasonable” when it comes to a new contract

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If we do this trade Ayton is coming back because he's the player that actually makes sense.

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Bc trading for a malcontent, who thinks he should be a #1 no less than a #2 option on his team, has motor and effort issues, at times that are glaring and well known locker room vibes that obviously causes Phoenix to give up on him and after 1 year, Portland decided to draft his replacement at a position that on paper was a strength if healthy. Oh and can't leave out that he's on a MAX contract and believes he has nothing to prove bc he's paid like a max player.

Nevermind his defense has taken a precipitous decline, he doesn't go to the rim, can't shoot threes, loves his decent mid range jumper to a fault, didn't block shots nearly enough last year and his overall numbers dipped markedly. Bad team you say?? He fancies himself to be a franchise player. Portland sucks. Enough said.

But, hey let's trade for him, he'll be the fourth or fifth option, coached by a branch of the Monty Williams tree- defensive minded coach in Willie, who has the same philosophy and outlook on what Ayton should be for his team. We would go from Big Val who gave max effort and model of consistency to Ayton and his some-timey arse and his cancerous locker room energy when things don't go his way... Think B.I. is reluctant to allow Zion to be the #1, wait till Ayton gets on the team, has a decent game or 2 and then becomes jealous and envious of his front court mate to the point where WE would want him traded by Fevruary.

Trading for Ayton is the terrible idea my friend.

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I love it for us. I like the versatility of the various lineups we could put out. Starters could be situational and we'd have great depth. I know that some will question the return, but a starting Center and two above average bench players for Ingram and Hawkins is not bad.

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Crazy. I’d absolutely hate this move. I would rather let BI walk and keep Hawkins and the cap space instead of losing both for a 5 that can’t stay healthy, a head case, and a $25+ million dollar small guard that can’t defend and whose 21-61 team was better with him off the floor

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Sleeper trade: Ingram for Jerami Grant, Robert Williams III and 2 second round picks

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I'd rather let BI walk.

Sure, a flyer on RobWill is great, but he's likely not going to be healthy.

And the last thing we need is a wing getting paid $30mil that we have to give minutes too. That's one of the 2 main reasons why we're trying to get rid of BI.

We need minutes to open up for Trey, not trade BI then have the same exac issue we had before trading BI but now exacerbated for the next 4 years or whatever it is instead of just 1 more with BI.