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Why do people say that we have a housing crisis, when it’s a cultural crisis?
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:53 pm
We don’t really hear about it locally as much because you can buy a house for less than 200,000 here.
But in places like the West Coast & San Francisco, the claims of housing shortages are being stated as the blame for all the homelessness.
But it doesn’t quite make sense:
The population of San Francisco increased 4% while housing inventory increased 56%.
So why a “shortage” now when there was ZERO mention of a housing shortage until the 1990’s?
From Wiki:
The underlying issue is family size.
Divorce, Unwed mothers, “career” singles.
It used to be a sustainable culture of mother, father and a couple kids all living in one place.
Now one baby daddy lives one place, another baby daddy lives somewhere else and mom and her two kids need their own place so we go from having one unit to three. We have “permanent bachelors” & empowered women, who all need “a place of their own”.
When should we start demanding accountability for the “Carbon Footprint” of non-“nuclear family” choices?
“You want a place of your own? Great, you’re the reason for homelessness you selfish piece of Shite.”
But in places like the West Coast & San Francisco, the claims of housing shortages are being stated as the blame for all the homelessness.
But it doesn’t quite make sense:
quote:
In 1950, the population of San Francisco was 775,357. By 2022, the population increased to 808,437.
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In 1950, San Francisco had approximately 265,726 dwelling units. By the end of 2023, San Francisco is projected to have a total of 415,803 housing units.
The population of San Francisco increased 4% while housing inventory increased 56%.
So why a “shortage” now when there was ZERO mention of a housing shortage until the 1990’s?
From Wiki:
quote:
Starting in the 1990s, the city of San Francisco and the surrounding San Francisco Bay Area have faced a serious housing shortage. The Bay Area's housing shortage is part of the broader California housing shortage.
The underlying issue is family size.
Divorce, Unwed mothers, “career” singles.
It used to be a sustainable culture of mother, father and a couple kids all living in one place.
Now one baby daddy lives one place, another baby daddy lives somewhere else and mom and her two kids need their own place so we go from having one unit to three. We have “permanent bachelors” & empowered women, who all need “a place of their own”.
When should we start demanding accountability for the “Carbon Footprint” of non-“nuclear family” choices?
“You want a place of your own? Great, you’re the reason for homelessness you selfish piece of Shite.”
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:55 pm to Kujo
I see no crisis.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 2:57 pm to Kujo
Cost of housing vs quantity of housing.
You'll own nothing
Posted on 8/14/24 at 3:00 pm to Kujo
No crisis here. My house is paid for.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 3:07 pm to Kujo
It's a shortage of affordable housing that is the issue. But to address your analysis, in 1950 more families with children lived in SF so each dwelling housed more of the population. Now there are less families with children living in SF so many dwellings are occupied by 1 or 2 people.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 3:10 pm to Kujo
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it’s a cultural crisis?
And a border crisis.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 3:15 pm to Kujo
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So why a “shortage” now when there was ZERO mention of a housing shortage until the 1990’s?
Googles “San Francisco housing shortage”
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Starting in the 1990s, the city of San Francisco and the surrounding San Francisco Bay Area have faced a serious housing shortage. The Bay Area's housing shortage is part of the broader California housing shortage.
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Since the 1960s, San Francisco and the surrounding Bay Area have enacted strict zoning regulations.[11] Among other restrictions, San Francisco does not allow buildings over 40 feet tall in most of the city, and has passed laws making it easier for neighbors to block developments.[12] Partly as a result of these codes, from 2007 to 2014, Bay Area cities have issued building permits for only half the number of needed houses, based on the area's population growth.[13]
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Rapid economic growth of the high tech industry in San Francisco and nearby Silicon Valley created hundreds of thousands of new jobs. The higher demand for housing, combined with the lack of supply, (caused by severe restrictions on the building of new housing units)[16] caused dramatic increases in rents and extremely high housing prices.[17][18][19] For example, from 2012 to 2016, the San Francisco metropolitan area added 373,000 new jobs, but permitted only 58,000 new housing units.[20]
Posted on 8/14/24 at 3:17 pm to Kujo
You’re missing the other big point, “culture” and places that allow homelessness and lawlessness become unlivable for those who want a quiet safe place to live.
There is plenty of housing in all major cities and especially urban areas, but not plenty of safe housing. Which then makes the safe housing more valuable and unaffordable.
Locally think about LSU as an example. There’s so much housing around campus, yet vast majority of it isn’t really livable for students so they get pushed further and further down Burbank
There is plenty of housing in all major cities and especially urban areas, but not plenty of safe housing. Which then makes the safe housing more valuable and unaffordable.
Locally think about LSU as an example. There’s so much housing around campus, yet vast majority of it isn’t really livable for students so they get pushed further and further down Burbank
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 8/14/24 at 3:22 pm to Kujo
Maybe if Cali stopped importing millions of illegal invaders they wouldn’t have such a housing problem. Just spitballing here.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 4:35 pm to Dire Wolf
Sure they added restrictions, but housing outpaced population growth.
You blame the restriction instead of the demand for single people housing & waste?
You blame the restriction instead of the demand for single people housing & waste?
Posted on 8/14/24 at 4:37 pm to Kujo
Brah you really think those are the real #s. So many illegals unaccounted for in that state
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:01 pm to Kujo
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We have “permanent bachelors” & empowered women, who all need “a place of their own”.
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:01 pm to Kujo
Home ownership rates in the USA have changed very little since the 1960’s.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:06 pm to Kujo
Why don’t we talk about how every city has an area with well built houses on a planned grid that could use a little fixing up but the productive citizens chose to live in the sprawl away from that area
I wonder that causes that
I wonder that causes that
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:12 pm to el Gaucho
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I wonder that causes that
No one is ready for that conversation.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:14 pm to Kujo
Housing crisis is due to over regulation and NIMBYs
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:18 pm to Kujo
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Sure they added restrictions, but housing outpaced population growth.
They didn’t really add housing, they turned 4/2 house into duplex or quadplex
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:46 pm to el Gaucho
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Why don’t we talk about how every city has an area with well built houses on a planned grid that could use a little fixing up but the productive citizens chose to live in the sprawl away from that area
I wonder that causes that
It's called cowardice. Why is it that only the gays and the liberals are man enough to move into the ghettos and gentrify them? Take back our cities!! Wanna find an up and coming neighborhood to invest in? Look for a rainbow flag in the hood! Gay men and Home Depot are bringing back America!!
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:58 pm to el Gaucho
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Why don’t we talk about how every city has an area with well built houses on a planned grid that could use a little fixing up but the productive citizens chose to live in the sprawl away from that area
I wonder that causes that
Partially the influx of el gauchos.
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