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Why hasn’t the pace of the Ukraine Russia war change since the 60 billion?

Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:37 am
I’ve still been keeping tabs nothing has changed. Russia is still on the same pace since Ukraine had critically low equipment. Ukraine is still losing land and Russia keeps adapting and getting stronger. What was the 60 billion supposed to do?
Posted by Biff Underwood
Member since Jul 2024
88 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:39 am to
It's not meant to change anything, it's meant to keep the money train rolling.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:43 am to
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What was the 60 billion supposed to do?
Line the pockets of criminals and help elect Dem politicians
Posted by Arthur Bach
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:43 am to
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It's not meant to change anything, it's meant to keep the money train rolling.


This is the correct answer
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8180 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:43 am to
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What was the 60 billion supposed to do


Wasn't supposed to do anything but enrich the rats in D.C.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13692 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:48 am to
Got to subtract the 59 billion consultanting fee going to the in crowd
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16164 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:49 am to
The Nato proxy Ukraine army is fighting hard they are just running out of trained men and replacing them with poorly trained conscripts stretching the poorly rested and poorly equipped army further. Russia probes across the wide stretched front finding weak points and attacking those constantly switching the game plan taking what the proxy enemy gives them. Men, equipment, and foreign will, all being eroded as the Russian army continues to beef up both in man power and the evolution of equipment to better nato defenses. Russia will win the war it's just a matter of time when Ukraine admits being Natos puppet was a mistake and taps.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41811 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:09 am to
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it's just a matter of time when Ukraine admits being Natos puppet was a mistake and taps.


Another two and half years perhaps?
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16164 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:16 am to
Perhaps, what's most important is that their will is broken so they arent lured back in by Nato once this war ends. However, it does seem like their will is breaking much sooner by the recent changes in Zelenskys tune. What will be interesting is after the Nato proxy war if Ukraine is able to stabilize or fall into a civil war for whatever left of New Ukraine.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8782 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:32 am to
Serious Question:

What's the most reliable source for determining the truth regarding the status of that war?
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14417 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:38 am to
Admin is slow rolling the supplies over. They don’t want Ukraine to lose but they don’t want them to win either……


Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:46 am to
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Serious Question: What's the most reliable source for determining the truth regarding the status of that war?


This sub in Reddit just lurk it leans pro Russian but in terms of losses, advancement, strikes, and comments on the ground it’s the best.


Also Julian Roepcke on X, he’s a German reporter who is pro Ukraine but honest about the state of the war.

LINK

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This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 11:48 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116736 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:48 am to
It's essentially a stalemate. The 60 billion we're giving Ukraine is not spent on tanks and planes to take territory back. That would be dangerous. They spend it on VERY expensive long range missiles and drones that can keep Russians hunkered down so lots of stuff blows up but very few soldiers die. The deaths occur when the soldiers make attacks. So they don't.
This could go on as long as America keeps buying them rockets.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 11:49 am
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21410 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:48 am to
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What was the 60 billion supposed to do?


You already know the answer.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37990 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:48 am to
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Russia will win the war


Yes but at what cost? They are just playing their usual game of throwing bodies at this, but they do not have the benefit of winter helping them. Not sure they have won many wars on their soil without the help of winter. Russia hasn't gained that much territory, and I have seen estimates of 70k casualty/kia in the past two months alone. The goal needs to be to bleed them dry so they do not decide to invade AGAIN as they have done maybe 7x. All breaks in warfare have just been a regrouping for Russia. If this war comes to an end there needs to be steps to stop Russia from invading for an 8th time


quote:

Serious Question:

What's the most reliable source for determining the truth regarding the status of that war?


Wrong place to ask this. Everyone is going to tell you to go to the place that agrees with their opinion

quote:

Admin is slow rolling the supplies over. They don’t want Ukraine to lose but they don’t want them to win either……


Correct. Bleed Russia dry slowly without threatening the state

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The 60 billion we're giving Ukraine is not spent on tanks and planes to take territory back.


A huge chunk of that goes to the "MIC" You cannot just have munitions sitting on a shelf as they go bad eventually. In that case you either fire them off in training (not enough training calendar days for that), sell them, use them in a war, or pay Raytheon and such to dismantle them. What we are doing is sending over old shite and then restocking the shelves with new shite. In that formula Russia is the only one that suffers. Now for the real cool stuff like Patriots we get to show them off and countries like Poland start placing orders

This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 11:53 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116736 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:53 am to
Russia's position for talks is that they keep what they have captured. Ukraine says 'No, because you'll go after more land later on.'
Russia's history on this hurts their position. Americans aren't sensitive to this but Europeans are.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37990 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:54 am to
I agree with you on this . They have invaded several times so why let them regroup and retool? I get slammed on here but that is why I believe we need to let the Ukes kill as many Russians as they can
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41583 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:56 am to
The Democrats desire to bleed us of money and put us so far into debt that "We the People" embrace socialism.
Posted by GainesvilleVols
Free America
Member since Jul 2024
83 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:58 am to
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is why I believe we need to let the Ukes kill as many Russians as they can


Why do you say this so easily? What kind of hatred and coldness is in your heart to glibly talk about killing humans you have not been wronged by?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38719 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:59 am to
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Ukraine admits being Natos puppet was a mistake and taps.


True. Via Obama/Nuland who started the whole conflict with their coup. Albeit Russia has always wanted the contested areas back wherein many of the citizens would prefer Russia over the Muh Democracy, corrupted US/Globalist version. Cost them big time, and we are on the chopping block for much the same.
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