Cavs give Evan Mobley a max deal. 5 years $224 million. Does that make Allen expendable?

With the money they are paying Mobley, Garland, and Mitchell they will not be able to give BI anything close to what he wants. We would have to send other items to Cleveland to get Allen. Allen is cost controlled for them and probably will sign a cheaper contract than BI. I think investing money in a wing would make sense more than two smaller guards, but that is what they did.

I think we are going to get relatively nothing for BI. If we could have just gotten a swap of him for Allen that would be awesome fit wise; however, I don’t see it now.

The Pels need to start looking at moving on from both BI and CJ to keep their roster flexible.

A deal is not doable because they aren't going to pay BI max, and he isn't going to agree to go to Cleveland on a 1 year or take less to go there (they probably won't even offer him as much as we would on an extension), and Cleveland won't trade Allen for a 1 year rental anyway.

It's a pipe dream people won't let go of. It was never going to happen.

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And that is the MAIN issue of why no one is taking BI, because no one wants to give up assests AND pay him max.

He will have to decide whether he wants to go into the season on a 1 year, take a shorter extension (maybe just a year), or take the long extension for less. And only 1 of those options will likely get him traded.

Agreed they overpaid for Mobley and they can’t take BI wanting a max which is why I figured a 3rd team would need to get involved. Still even then you still have to convince BI to take a deal $20-30 million below the max or a one year extension to trade him. There are no easy answers to our center issue but we have to find a guy that can rebound. Matkovic will be a good guy off the bench for us running the floor at the 5 but he’s a poor rebounder honestly and Missi just isn’t close to being ready for meaningful NBA minutes.

I came up with a 4 teamer involving Detroit and Golden State, but making the money work on these deals is hard and I'm not convinced they are deals all teams would agree to.

Warriors: Ingram
Pistons: Garland
Pels: Allen, Podziemski, picks
Cavs: Wiggins, Ivey, Moody, Stewart, picks

Cavs need wing help, but would they want Wiggins? If they are ok taking Wiggins back then you get starting caliber replacements, 2 prospects, and picks for Garland and Allen.
Would the Pistons even want Garland?

How many picks to and from who is another question but there's no doubt Detroit needs to send out multiple and the Warriors have to send out at least 1-2.

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Literally Pels are the only ones that agree to that trade.

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I didn't say it was a great trade, I was illustrating how hard it's going to be to make BI for Allen happen.

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I didn't say it was a great trade, I was illustrating how hard it's going to be to make BI for Allen happen.

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Not really, you just have to get them a piece they would be comfortable letting Allen go for, which IMO would be a very good backup center. Something like this would make all 4 teams happy imo:

Pels: Allen, Duncan, 2nds from Utah or Miami
Cavs: Jovic, Kessler
Heat: Ingram
Jazz: Herro

Miami gets Ingram without giving up much, Utah gets a huge scoring threat to put alongside Lauri, Cavs solidify their rotation with probably the best backup 5 in the league behind Mobley and a good backup 4/5 off the bench, Pels get Allen and take on Duncan who can be an effective bench shooter.

Not the greatest return for BI, but you get your starting 5 for the next however many years, and Duncan can always be moved next season as an expiring if you don’t want to keep him.

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Warriors: Ingram
Pistons: Garland
Pels: Allen, Podziemski, picks
Cavs: Wiggins, Ivey, Moody, Stewart, picks

Cavs need wing help, but would they want Wiggins? If they are ok taking Wiggins back then you get starting caliber replacements, 2 prospects, and picks for Garland and Allen.
Would the Pistons even want Garland?

How many picks to and from who is another question but there's no doubt Detroit needs to send out multiple and the Warriors have to send out at least 1-2.

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So, the Warriors would not give up Podz to get Markannen, but you think they will to get Ingram?

I still think a situation that sends Garland to a third team, BI to Cleveland, Allen to us as the base makes the most sense

I don’t see Cleveland trading Garland as Garland wants to be there. They also don’t have a PG to step up into his place if they ship him out, so they would be creating a hole.