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Zelensky interview with BBC: "Trump won't push us to accept quick peace terms".

Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by UtahGetMeTwo
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42474 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:52 am to

Keep the money coming. We got more bodies to spare.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
56577 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:52 am to
Trump will turn off the $$$ spigot on day 1
Posted by fifthdeadlyvenom
Member since Nov 2016
1059 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:56 am to
First term Trump needs to give that larping midget is to dress like a fricking grown man/president.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41435 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:57 am to
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Trump will turn off the $$$ spigot on day


lol no he won’t
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19450 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:58 am to
Define quick.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3395 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:58 am to
Absolutely. M effer thinks he's Castro.
Posted by UtahGetMeTwo
Member since Jul 2024
264 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:59 am to
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lol no he won’t


If Zelensky gives him sass, you better believe it.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46088 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:00 am to
The whole Ukraine thing might be the biggest example of cult behavior by the left next to the surveillance state.

I don’t know a single liberal… not one… who would have stood for this proxy war bullshite grift 10 years ago.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33431 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:00 am to
No he won’t but he will set firm stipulations.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4639 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:01 am to
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Trump will turn off the $$$ spigot on day 1


Yes, and few understand why. It's not because he's Putin's puppet.

It's because he knows where the money is actually going.

Biden to Zelensky before Trump took oath: "Don't ask his administration for money because he will become suspicious and start looking"


Trump knew before he ever called Zelensky about the money trail.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41435 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:02 am to
Trump I believe will get a cease fire and hopefully a permanent ageeement……

It will probably involve continued western assistance and security guarantees and Ukraine stays out of NATO
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:04 am to
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Trump will turn off the $$$ spigot on day 1

I'll take that bet
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41435 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:05 am to
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I'll take that bet


I always laugh when I read that shite on here
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2703 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:06 am to
Trump probably told Zelensky that once that F16 arrive in Ukraine he has until Jan to show functional gains or he will force a peace deal with both sides agreeing on the new Russian border as the current lines and Ukraine being able to join NATO in 5 years.

And here is the thing…. If Ukraine can use the F16s to neuter the crimea of all legitimate threats, the Ukraine can then use the Crimea as a bargaining chip. If they can’t make gains then this war is going to go on forever as a slaughter of a generation on both sides.

Essentially show us something or we are going to force a peace deal. Which in itself is a fairly balanced solution for Ukraine.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9660 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:08 am to
reality.......the discussion evolved into Zelensky need to stop the killing starting now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:10 am to
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I always laugh when I read that shite on here

I know Honk IRL. He checks up on my aunt for me. If we bet it will be settled.

What is going to happen is that Trump is going to support Ukraine and even if we get a ceasefire, we will pay for security...people will just blame Biden.

I imagine even if an unrelated conflict emerges, and we step in, it will be excused b/c it will be blamed on Biden, too.
Posted by UtahGetMeTwo
Member since Jul 2024
264 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:10 am to
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Trump I believe will get a cease fire and hopefully a permanent ageeement……

It will probably involve continued western assistance and security guarantees and Ukraine stays out of NATO


That part will be all on EU and Russia.
If Britain and France wanted this war so much to continue, they should pay for rebuild of what's a husk of Ukraine now.

Ukraine loses the areas of Donbass Russia claimed. Russia pays for a restitution percentage of rebuild costs of Ukraine.

That's about the best Ukraine can get, unless they spiral into civil war beforehand. Which they will, of course, but I don't believe there will be a 2nd war campaing by Russia in the next 5 years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466127 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:10 am to
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That part will be all on EU and Russia.

Again, I will take that bet. US boots will be on the ground.

Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 11:11 am to
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lol no he won’t


Not everyone is a complete dumbass to pour hundreds of billions of dollars into the economy of one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

In hindsight this whole thing was dumb from the get go.
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