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How could an entire Presidential campaign be replaced at this point?

Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:42 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:42 pm
Just think about replacing the critical campaign staff. Not only would that take time but it would also create insane conflict within the major party infrastructure. Then they would have to basically start over and then learn the national infrastructure of Biden's campaign, replace people, create new messaging, etc. And this is all before the first commercial.

And July begins shortly. So 4 full months to campaign.

Any replacement is a sacrificial lamb for down ballot purposes only. I just don't see how it's a viable option.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:43 pm to
You think they care about voters? Lol they only care about ballots and ballot counters.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:44 pm to
They know this country is divided and it doesn’t matter the candidate. Example being Joe Biden getting close to half the vote
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:45 pm to
Would be a monumental task for the Conservatives but for Democrats meh. Liberals always do what they’re told do Joe, Gavin, Gretchen. A cardboard cut out of a donkey. They vote for the D.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:46 pm to
In the past there have been time were they had a contested convention. They didn’t know who the ticket was until after a number of voting rounds.

Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
Logistically they may be able to pull it off. Politically you can't just admit your president is a failure four months before an election and expect to win with a new candidate who isn't somebody who is universally well known and well liked. I just don't see it.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

In the past there have been time were they had a contested convention. They didn’t know who the ticket was until after a number of voting rounds.

But those campaigns hadn't been running a campaign nationally for a year+

This is restarting a moving train
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

Politically you can't just admit your president is a failure four months before an election and expect to win with a new candidate who isn't somebody who is universally well known and well liked. I just don't see it.


Exactly
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:50 pm to
It would be very difficult, the logistics, the reorganization.

What other major campaigns have involved an election where the candidate has died or become incapacitated?

Wellstone comes to mind.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:51 pm to
Yep. People aren’t just going to line up and pretend it’s 2008 because Gavin Newsome is in the race.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:52 pm to
Even if Joe steps down you think Kamala is just gonna go down with him? It's gonna be ugly
Posted by FLTech
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:53 pm to
Yea but then you will have the state Governor try to help to make sure he can be removed.

It reminds me of one of the states where Joe was too late to get on the ballot and the fricking Republican Governor did everything he could to try to get him on the ballot to make sure that the "voters" could have a fair election. It was absurd. I don't remember which state it was.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:53 pm to
That’s not even considering the cabinet, campaign execs, etc
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:54 pm to
The question becomes which hurts the down ballot more: Biden going down in flames or replacing him with all the conflicts/issues
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Even if Joe steps down you think Kamala is just gonna go down with him? It's gonna be ugly

I already said a time ago if they replace Biden it will be someone they want to lose to remove them from future conflicts, like Kamala

Nobody likes her and this would kill her future
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 5:58 pm to
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Would be a monumental task for the Conservatives but for Democrats meh. Liberals always do what they’re told do Joe, Gavin, Gretchen. A cardboard cut out of a donkey. They vote for the D.

So if this situation was flipped, are you saying that conservatives wouldn’t all vote in lockstep for the replacement?
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 6:00 pm to
It’s too late. The media types wanted a change, but the Dems seem to be rallying around Biden today.

They were counting on Lawfare taking out Trump.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 6:02 pm to
Not that hard for the dims. It would be the same handlers for Joe with either Mike Obama or Cumonher Harris.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/28/24 at 6:05 pm to
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Any replacement is a sacrificial lamb for down ballot purposes only. I just don't see how it's a viable option.


I read a post on here earlier that stated that if it isn’t Kamala, then the money raised would be frozen.

I’m not sure that would be the case, but that would be a game changer.
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