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Kade Anderson vs Cam Johnson

Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:05 am
Posted by Cburris
Member since Jun 2024
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Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:05 am
I’m not too familiar with baseball recruiting & how these guys are evaluated but did the scouts miss on cam ? Why was Kade wayyy better than him? Does having a high velocity fast ball that you can’t throw for a strike really matter that much ? I’m just so confused on why the hype on cam is so high when we just seen another freshman with flaws but still way better than cam.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75834 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:06 am to
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did the scouts miss on cam ?


No.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16982 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:07 am to
Much of baseball recruiting has to do with potential.
Posted by WitnessTheLitness
Member since Jun 2017
575 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:07 am to
I can see it already. He's gonna go to an SEC team and dominate. Lol
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19647 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:09 am to
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I’m not too familiar with baseball recruiting & how these guys are evaluated but did the scouts miss on cam ?


Baseball recruiting is based on potential. Cam is a 6'5 left handed pitcher with plus plus velocity, this is something that cannot be taught.

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Why was Kade wayyy better than him?


Because Kade is a better pitcher right now who can command his off-speed and locate pitches.

quote:

Does having a high velocity fast ball that you can’t throw for a strike really matter that much ?


No

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I’m just so confused on why the hype on cam is so high when we just seen another freshman with flaws but still way better than cam.


When a pitcher can't throw strikes he's not a pitcher.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78163 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:12 am to
He had less velocity but better control.

He was injured and missed his Sr year so the hype wasn’t the same.

Cam probably needs a decent amount of work on his mechanics to find co so stench and accuracy.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75834 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:13 am to
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He had less velocity but better control.


In game situations this year, Anderson had both better velocity and better control.
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2023
1960 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 9:43 am to
I said this in the other thread but Kade Anderson would have been a 1st or 2nd round pick out of HS had he not had TJ surgery in HS and miss his whole Senior year. He was a much more polished pitcher than Cam.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15593 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:17 am to
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I can see it already. He's gonna go to an SEC team and dominate. Lol

When has an LSU player left the baseball team and dominated elsewhere?

Asking because my interest in following baseball has grown every year, but there has been years where my interest was negligible.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71513 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:19 am to
Cam Johnson throws upper 90s from the left side, this is why he was ranked highly, end of story
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44810 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:23 am to
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Kade Anderson vs Cam Johnson
The difference is one wears a baseball cap that fits, the other does not. You decide which.



Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
18360 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:27 am to
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Does having a high velocity fast ball that you can’t throw for a strike really matter that much


Not really sure what you're talking about when you say "High School velocity". But, throwing strike is kind of a big deal when pitching.
This post was edited on 6/10/24 at 10:29 am
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44810 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:33 am to
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Not really sure what you're talking about when you say "High School velocity"
OP just said high velocity, not sure where you’re getting the school part.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2292 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:49 am to
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Cam Johnson throws upper 90s from the left side



I haven't seen much of this at all. He sat low 90's in almost every outing


Posted by BGLAVI2
LOS ANGELES
Member since Jan 2013
342 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 10:58 am to
Yes and he was 6'5 250 and black. More to story.
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 11:04 am to
He will end up at Georgia… join his former pitching coach
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5336 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 11:04 am to
MLB draft is all about potential. MLB scouts can assign C. Johnson to some minor league team knowing it will take years of reps before he fixes his mechanics and is consistent enough to get a shot at the upper levels of baseball. That's exactly what the minors is built for. Giving guys reps and development. He has so much hype because of the potential MLB scouts see after that journey.

LSU is in win now mode, as every SEC baseball team is. You cant put an undeveloped guy like C. Johnson out there during a weekend SEC series and see what happens. You have to have players that can fill up the zone and control their pitches. Every weekend of SEC play we see guys with less "stuff" but the ability to locate the ball get out after out. C. Johnson hasn't shown he can locate pitches yet.

I hope C. Johnson ends up staying at LSU because CJJ can get him developed given enough time. Hopefully C. Johnson sees that and comes back to the team.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61896 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 11:04 am to
Cam Johnson because of his size as much as his velocity COULD be pretty much unhittable if he had control.

Kade is much more likely to develop the control needed to be an effective starter. His mechanics are just much more refined.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
18360 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 11:10 am to
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OP just said high velocity, not sure where you’re getting the school part.


Not sure why I read that into OP original post. My bad.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71513 posts
Posted on 6/10/24 at 11:17 am to
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I haven't seen much of this at all. He sat low 90's in almost every outing



He was at 98 in high school, (verified at PG event) and in the fall here last year topped 98.

His velocity dipped this past winter heading into the season and I'm trying to remember if he ever got over 96 during the season. He topped at at 95 during the 5 innings he threw leading up to the start of the season. They were trying to get him to do some different things.

In the end I think there's big questions surrounding his stamina. He only threw 27 total innings at IMG in 2023. He got here and obviously the work load was going to increase, was fine in the fall (topped 98, threw 10 innings then with 14 K, only 3 BB) but ever since winter he seems like he just couldnt get a repeat delivery and lost control (95-96 tops and tons of free passes)
This post was edited on 6/10/24 at 11:20 am
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