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In the market for a 3rd row vehicle.

Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:50 am
Posted by HermanBoone
The Chuck
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:50 am
Used Suburban or new Honda Pilot is pretty much what we’ve narrowed it down to. Having our 3rd kid in August so have to buy soon to fit 2 car seats.

I’ve read the horror stories about certain Suburbans/Tahoes. Priced around $40,000 for a 2021 with 80,000 miles on a 5.3 engine.

New Pilots are around $50000. Interest rate 4.9 for 72 months. Note around $600 a month. Obviously interest will be more for a used Suburban.

Combined income around $160000.

What would you guys do in our situation?
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:05 am to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:05 am to
I can't speak for your situation.

We have a Sequoia.
Runs like a beast.

For what it is worth, we were able to get 3 car seats in an Isuzu Trooper's 1 row bench seat.
We weren't forced to ditch it until #4 was on the way.
We were in the process of cleaning the Trooper when we tried the 3 car seats and discovered that the newer vehicle wasn't a necessity but a luxury (so we kept the trooper for another 18 months).
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by HermanBoone
The Chuck
Member since Aug 2013
901 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:12 am to
You’re preaching to the choir. I’d love a minivan. Wife can’t bring herself to do it yet lol
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1735 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:18 am to
Pilot interior is a lot like the crv which we have. It’s very nice and easy to use. Probably very reliable.

We also have a palisade, so far it’s great now past 100k miles who knows lol
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47214 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:46 am to
Toyota Grand Highlander is a minivan in SUV form middle even middle row captains chairs
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19988 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 12:17 pm to
Minivan
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 12:28 pm to
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Wife can’t bring herself to do it yet lol


lift up ur skirt and grab ur balls and dictate to her what you are getting.

never had one but that minivan looks great especially for ur situation!
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24707 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 12:28 pm to
I’ve been researching this for months. I’m looking to buy new.

Grand Highlander is overpriced and often selling for more than MSRP. I’ve checked out the GH in-person and driven the Lexus TX that is built on the same platform. They are fine vehicles but I feel like there are better in that mid size class for the same money (or less in some cases). No arguing with the Toyota reliability though.

Pilot is a fine vehicle but lacks some of the features that the best in class in the segment offer. You do get the benefits that it’s a Honda from a reliability standpoint.

The Hyundai Palisade has won best mid size SUV for like four years running. It has a functional third row. It’s getting a full remodel in 2026. This is what we would have bought but it doesn’t have power folding mirrors in the US version so a very tight fit for our garage. Otherwise, it checks every box for us (and I would expect you based on your requirements).

Chevy Traverse just hit the market in a “mini Tahoe” remake. It is the largest mid size SUV without needing to go up to full size. The second row is highly functional for car seats with the way in slide forward without folding to access the third row.

A Suburban vs a Pilot isn’t a typical comparison. You either need a full size vehicle or you don’t — start there. Generally speaking, mid size SUVs are more functional now with third rows than they used to be. I find a full size vehicle to be more of a hassle unless you actually need something that large for a specific purpose.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 12:47 pm to
Grand Highlander is an option
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14241 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:23 pm to
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Combined income around $160000.


quote:

3rd kid


Unless you’re going off road or pulling something heavy, you don’t need an SUV. That’s what they are designed to do. With that income and 3 young kids, that is not what you are designed to do.

Get a used mini van. Pay cash.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:33 pm to
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Get a used mini van. Pay cash.


never ever pay cash. you will not get a better deal. or you insist u can use cash from a bank loan with better terms and pay cash if you must then pay down simple interest of bank money . or get a simple interest loan from dealership. pay off with your cash later so you are not penalized

they hate cash buyers overall.

get the price down as low as you can, get good terms/rate.

finance it.

pay note a couple months then you can pay it off.

This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 1:15 pm
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
3059 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:53 pm to
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New Pilots are around $50000. Interest rate 4.9 for 72 months. Note around $600 a month.

You sure about those numbers?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13760 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:14 pm to
I have 3 kids and just shopped this segment; I got the Lexus TX. I would've got the grand highlander, but I got a great deal on the Lexus, and I slightly prefer how the TX is packaged compared to the GH.

These two vehicles, along with the traverse, are almost as big as a minivan.

If I needed to tow, or need to fit full size adults in a third row, I'd go for one of the body on frame full size SUVs.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51451 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:19 pm to
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You sure about those numbers?

It's around $600/mo with 20k down or on trade-in. With 10% down that's over $800/mo.

Crazy for a Pilot to me.

ETA - think I was using 60/mo
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24707 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:36 pm to
Financing large amounts of money at high rates is expensive. Who would have known…
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10180 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Having our 3rd kid in August so have to buy soon to fit 2 car seats.

Get a minivan. May be a hard pill to swallow but you’ll be glad later when all the kids start getting in and out on their own.
Posted by CEB
Member since May 2023
70 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:38 pm to
We had a handful of minivans. Plymouth Voyager, Grand Caravan then an Odyssey. Now have a 2017 Pilot. Pilot rides great but the Odyssey was my favorite. Drove it for 185,000 miles. Aside from regular maintenance only had to change out AC condenser and one transmission solenoid. It had more room than Pilot.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24707 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:38 pm to
I haven’t driven a new Traverse yet. They just arrived this weekend to my local dealership. I’m also looking at the new Acadia. Did you drive the Traverse before going with the TX?
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
7865 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

I got the Lexus TX. I would've got the grand highlander, but I got a great deal on the Lexus


Hey are you willing to share how good a deal did you get out? I’m deciding if I want to go with the TX or grand highlander
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