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re: 4 year long study on Wegovy/semaglutide shows heart benefits and safety

Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:14 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31600 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:14 am to
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Reeks of the 'big boned' excuse.


huh? the dude has a legit GI track issue that causes this. its actually decently common. if anything it causes him to take in less calories. what he is saying is it allowed him to use protein shakes and only 1 meal a day to help fix the issue

you are just making shite up or are completely mis understanding what he was saying
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79143 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:15 am to
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Get out of here with this bullshite. Stop with the god damn excuses. Own up to what you are and fix

Ok . I own up to having severe esophageal stricture. Also I own up to having great hair. Happy?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93785 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:16 am to
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What’s going to suddenly present that hasn’t over the last 20 years?


This hasn’t been addressed. Just casually looked over while telling people “stop being gross and fat and just lift weights. It’s simple as that”

As if all of us here debating this don’t have some sort of physical activity they partake in every day.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33534 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:16 am to
With all of the information that’s been shared in this thread, he’s either being purposefully obtuse or willfully ignorant at this point.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33534 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:18 am to
I think many people don’t realize that these aren’t new drugs and have decades of studies behind them. They are only being used to address different issues and very successfully so.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424504 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:18 am to
Virtue signaling is so hot
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30105 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:18 am to
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wonder how many of you ignoring decades of studies when it comes to this drug got the vax.


Lol. No.

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What’s going to suddenly present that hasn’t over the last 20 years


How old are you?

They used to tell us that not only was smoking not dangerous that it was healthy.
Asbestos
Lead in paint
Floride
The list goes on

There are no magic beans.

But I’m sure fricking with people’s hormones won’t have any affects and no one has ever fudged a long term study to sell more snake oil.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424504 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:19 am to
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I think many people don’t realize that these aren’t new drugs and have decades of studies behind them.


You're very correct. I made the same point earlier.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424504 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:20 am to
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They used to tell us that not only was smoking not dangerous that it was healthy.
Asbestos
Lead in paint
Floride
The list goes on

There are no magic beans.

I hope you are a dedicated Christian Scientist
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7136 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:20 am to
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your primary argument is that you have the right to ridicule fat people

Damn right I do. If you want roses & tulips or coddling for your lazy obese lifestyle you aren't ever going to get it from me. We may have normalized things like 'obesity' and 'transsexuals' etc in this country but that doesn't mean I will accept that. Its not normal to be obese, its not normal to be on 3, 4, or 5 prescription medications and we need to stop acting like it is because it isn't. Call it tough love if you want. If I knew you in person and you asked for help I would give it to you. But, I'm not going to pretend that any of this is normal. It is completely abnormal.
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You know we are talking about helping people who may not have your self discipline or genetic blessings

Has nothing to do with genetics. Being a lazy fat slob is a choice. You can however change that. Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to hit the Caine's drive thru multiple times a week.
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Why is that such a deal killer for you?

Its not. 99% of issues can be corrected with a little work and determination and lifestyle changes.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30105 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:21 am to
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hope you are a dedicated Christian Scientist


Coming fresh off the heals of the Covid vax and so many people willing to tote the medical industrial complex water. You people never learn.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33534 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:21 am to
There’s been no huge jump in cancer or other threatening issue is over 20 years. Again, what do you expect to present that hasn’t already?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93785 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:22 am to
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They used to tell us that not only was smoking not dangerous that it was healthy.
Asbestos
Lead in paint
Floride
The list goes on

There are no magic beans.


What?

There are no cures for diseases that weren’t there 150 years ago? People died from fever 100 years ago. People died from a cold 100 years ago. What the frick are you talking about?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424504 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:22 am to
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Coming fresh off the heals of the Covid vax and so many people willing to tote the medical industrial complex water.

The vax that still hasn't produced the medical apocalypse the fetishists have been predicting for 3 years?

All medications have side effects. The only way to reach the purity you're projecting is to abstain. Again, I hope you're a dedicated Christian Scientist.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93785 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:23 am to
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Coming fresh off the heals of the Covid vax and so many people willing to tote the medical industrial complex water. You people never learn.



Oh. Possible Facebook conspiracy theorist. Now I see where he’s coming from
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33534 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:23 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424504 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:23 am to
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Again, what do you expect to present that hasn’t already?

His feelings, damnit.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30105 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:23 am to
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There are no cures for diseases that weren’t there 150 years ago? People died from fever 100 years ago. People died from a cold 100 years ago. What the frick are you talking about?


People die from those things today. Why are YOU talking about?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99467 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:24 am to
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But I’m sure fricking with people’s hormones won’t have any affects and no one has ever fudged a long term study to sell more snake oil.


This would be a fantastic argument if obesity didn’t cause larger issues with hormones and wasn’t as physically destructive as it is.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33534 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:25 am to
Meh. I refused the vax for a few reasons but one of them was certainly the
lack of long term studies. If it had been around as long as these meds with the side effects as thoroughly studied, that part wouldn’t have been concerning to me at all.
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