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re: Free Speech is a right. How come we do not register our speech, thought, or writings?

Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
2237 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Driving a car is a right. How come we don't have to use blinkers when we exercise free speech?


Driving a car is not a right
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
2237 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:03 pm to
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Most notably Chicken Curry Clinton (Haley)


Has Trump used that nickname? Or is it not childish enough for him. MAGA needs some new entertainment material. That’s what matters in a president.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39945 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:03 pm to
Okay, I should not have to go to such lengths to ridicule such a ridiculous OP, but here goes. We have the constitutional right to freedom of religion, just as we do for free speech. Yet when we give money to the practitioners of religion we can deduct it from our taxable income. Why can't we do the same when we give money to the practitioners of free speech?

You see? This is a foolish attempt to establish parallelism among the various treatments of our constitutional rights. There is no parallelism, nor should there be.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26793 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:03 pm to
Understood brah. You have no interest in actually discussing the issue.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50438 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:04 pm to
Isn’t that what copyright is?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:05 pm to
Is that you, Clarence? Was that complete and total destruction?

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73123 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:05 pm to
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Understood brah. You have no interest in actually discussing the issue.


I don't think you do understand, sport.

I'll discuss the issue. I'm just not interested in your discussion. You've already admitted that you were trying to pivot the discussion away from my original post, and you expect me to jump in with you.

Nah. I'm good.

Now, if you want to discuss why you're such a fricking Fudd...
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73123 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:07 pm to
Careful with the emojis...

Indefuddigable doesn't like those.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26793 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:08 pm to
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You've already admitted that you were trying to pivot the discussion away from my original post, and you expect me to jump in with you.

It’s not your thread, dude. My question to you was directly on point with the OP, which is comparing various enumerated rights and how they are treated.

And as I said, I asked you the question (which I had already posed generally) because I know how you feel on the Second Amendment. My MASSIVE mistake for wanting to have a conversation.

This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101732 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:09 pm to
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“Congress shall make no law” and “shall not be infringed”


Why the markedly different phraseology, you think?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26793 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:14 pm to
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Why the markedly different phraseology, you think?

A good question I don’t know the answer to—hence my apparently misguided attempt to get input on that very issue. I’ve always found it odd that the BoR employs a variety of language in that regard as opposed to a standard framework.

But then again, I’m from Louisiana so like my laws uniform and codified

This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73123 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:15 pm to
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It’s not your thread, dude.


It isn't yours either, sport.

Here you go:

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and you expect me to jump in with you.


I ignored your question because it was irrelevant and already answered. It's your problem if you don't like that, not mine.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80756 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Has Trump used that nickname? Or is it not childish enough for him. MAGA needs some new entertainment material. That’s what matters in a president.


Maybe you should demand that I provide my name and address like she did.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26793 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:16 pm to
Call it irrelevant all you want, but it hasn’t been answered until someone answers it.

Posting my own comments and emojis will never constitute answering the question.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9183 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:19 pm to
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Yet when we give money to the practitioners of religion we can deduct it from our taxable income. Why can't we do the same when we give money to the practitioners of free speech?


I know, I know, I know. Just create The Church of Free Speech.

This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73123 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:20 pm to
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Call it irrelevant all you want


I will, because it is.

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it hasn’t been answered


You answered it.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9183 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:23 pm to
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Isn’t that what copyright is?


Can you explain what happens when your copyright is infringed?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26793 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:24 pm to
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You answered it.

Got it. So you agree the analysis is the same between the first and second amendments and that enumerated rights can be reasonably restricted as long as the restriction is narrowly tailored to a legitimate governmental purpose.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4341 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Why can't we do the same when we give money to the practitioners of free speech?


You can if they are doing so as a 503c non-profit organization, and you can't if the religion isn't being practiced through one.

Strike two.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73123 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Got it.


Well, it's about fricking time...

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So you agree the analysis is the same between the first and second amendments and that enumerated rights can be reasonably restricted as long as the restriction is narrowly tailored to a legitimate governmental purpose.


Nope.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 2:27 pm
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