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re: Cohen: The payment was delayed in election interference trial, it only matter if Trump won
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:16 pm to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:16 pm to RaoulDuke504
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They are trying to prove it was for the election and Trump team is trying to prove it was personal. If it was for the election you would want to shut someone up before people voted not after. Also why would you pay someone to keep quiet if you already won and it would no longer effect the election unless it was because you didn’t want your wife to find out
Except he's tying the payment directly to the election by saying delay the payment until after the election and why.... that strengthens the prosecutor's argument of tying the payment to the election and it's not a personal payment.
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:20 pm to ForeverGator
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Except he's tying the payment directly to the election by saying delay the payment until after the election and why.... that strengthens the prosecutor's argument of tying the payment to the election and it's not a personal payment.
That makes no sense you shut someone up before the election not after
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:21 pm to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:21 pm to RaoulDuke504
If he was trying to delay her until after the election, he certainly didn’t think she was much of a threat.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:23 pm to RaoulDuke504
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That makes no sense you shut someone up before the election not after
You know this how?
It's about the agreement. When the payment itself occurs is irrelevant unless here, you're trying to prove that the payment was tied to the election. If Trump did say to hold off payment until AFTER the election for the reasons Cohen stated, then it's directly tied to the election. Just strengthens the prosecutor's argument, IMHO.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:27 pm to ForeverGator
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You know this how? It's about the agreement. When the payment itself occurs is irrelevant unless here, you're trying to prove that the payment was tied to the election. If Trump did say to hold off payment until AFTER the election for the reasons Cohen stated, then it's directly tied to the election. Just strengthens the prosecutor's argument, IMHO.
What person who is getting paid to be quiet due to them effecting their chances of that person get elected would wait till their leverage is gone and per Cohen words did not care of his wife found out
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:35 pm to ForeverGator
You know it's going badly for the prosecution when you have to be this obtuse to cling to the hope of "winning".
If Trump is convicted it will be in spite of the testimony and prosecutor. He's failed miserably. Even the talking heads on the morning news shows are saying so. The only way he gets his "win" is if the disdain for Trump in a Manhattan jury is such that he could convict him for excessive spray tanning. I've yet to hear anyone opine that this has a chance to be upheld on appeal.
If Trump is convicted it will be in spite of the testimony and prosecutor. He's failed miserably. Even the talking heads on the morning news shows are saying so. The only way he gets his "win" is if the disdain for Trump in a Manhattan jury is such that he could convict him for excessive spray tanning. I've yet to hear anyone opine that this has a chance to be upheld on appeal.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:42 pm to RaoulDuke504
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did not care of his wife found out
Exactly. So this wasn't personal, it was about the election.
If it were personal, he WOULD care if his wife found out.
Think this through logically.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:55 pm to ForeverGator
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Exactly. So this wasn't personal, it was about the election.
If it were about the election, why would he wait until after to pay?
Re-read the testimony. Even if it is true, there is nothing stating he instructed to make an agreement before the election.
quote:
Think this through logically.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:56 pm to RaoulDuke504
quote:Yet Trump won .... and Stormy got paid ... and Cohen's story smells nasty.
Trump said to delay payment to Stormy Daniels until after the election because the story wasn’t relevant if he won
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:01 pm to NC_Tigah
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Yet Trump won .... and Stormy got paid ... and Cohen's story smells nasty.
Yep. It makes no sense.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:38 pm to memphisplaya
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Cohen
“Fixer”
I wouldn’t hire that dolt to fix a flat tire. Not one of Trump’s better hires.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:42 pm to ForeverGator
Serious question.
Are you retarded?
Are you retarded?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:43 pm to ForeverGator
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you shut someone up before the election not after
quote:
You know this how?
Ummm…the gift of common sense?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:52 pm to Godfather1
Y’all are all legal geniuses!
Seeing the opposite of what the actual lawyers see.
Yes, Braggs case is awful. But this testimony is a positive for him. Sorry you can’t reason it out
Seeing the opposite of what the actual lawyers see.
Yes, Braggs case is awful. But this testimony is a positive for him. Sorry you can’t reason it out
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:54 pm to Nurbis
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From that statement, Trump did not want her to be paid at all. Cohen said Trump's statement was if he won, the story wasn't relevant, and if he lost, he did not care anyway. Ultimately, she was paid before the election against Trump's wishes.
If Trump being worth $7.7B is true, a $130k payment is 0.000017% of his worth. This sham is fricking dumb.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:56 pm to holdem Tiger
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They weren’t legal expenses dude. The misdemeanor is a slam dunk
They were funds paid to a lawyer. On a ledger, tell me what that payment should say, genius?
Lawyers pay lots of bills for their clients and seek reimbursement later--document costs, expert fees, airfare and hotels for trial witnesses, etc. Do you think those clients's business records are false when those reimbursements are booked as "legal expenses"???
Of course not...because payments to lawyers for things they have handled and funded on your behalf are, in fact, legal expenses. That's what lawyers do. It's the damned job.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:57 pm to RaoulDuke504
If the payment is delayed until after the election then there's no way for it to influence the election.
So why are we having this trial?
So why are we having this trial?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 5:58 pm to holdem Tiger
First of all, Cohen is the LEAST credible witness in the history of American law. Second, he’s changing his story again and placing the payoff AFTER the election he was allegedly trying to manipulate. Which isn’t even a crime anyway. Third, he won and still paid her, so this new version doesn’t really hold water.
No, it wasn’t a good day for Alvin Bragg.
No, it wasn’t a good day for Alvin Bragg.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 6:00 pm to RaoulDuke504
So, it wasn’t about the election but was about the presidency?
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