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Most Underwater Mortgages in the US - Baton Rouge 1st, Nola 2nd WTF?

Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:51 am
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:51 am
Among metro areas with a population of at least 500,000, Baton Rouge, La. had the largest share of seriously underwater mortgages in the first quarter, with 13.4%. Neighboring New Orleans came in second with 7.3%, followed by Jackson, Miss., and Little Rock, Ark., with 6.5% and 6%, respectively. Syracuse, NY came in fifth, with 5.6% of homes seriously underwater.

Holy shite! Q1 2024 Most Underwater Mortgages Per Metro 500k Pop


This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:53 am
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:52 am to
Wish it was broken down by cost paid for home
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:53 am to
Declining markets.

Underwater means the balance on the mortgage is more than the value of the house.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5213 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:53 am to
Those truck nut payments come before the house baw
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:54 am to
I don't see how this is shocking to people.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:54 am to
May simply mean those are the areas with the latest sales.

A mortgage is going to be underwater in the early part of the mortgage far more than at the middle or end.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:56 am to
I mean ppl have been buying 1500 square foot homes for 400k

Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:58 am to
quote:

A mortgage is going to be underwater in the early part of the mortgage far more than at the middle or end.


You are probably right, but I always assumed that even if someone has to pay PMI because they only put 3.5% down, the PMI payments would add a theoretical 20% or more to the home for "underwater" purposes...kind of like Gap insurance on a car.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:58 am to
Makes sense bc Nola is below sea level and the pumps are old
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:58 am to
Maybe they mean like literally ‘under the water’, below sea level …..




Dammit got beat to it by a few seconds…


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This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 9:59 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 9:59 am to
Well, $0 down home sales like Horton and DSLD tend to use the rural development grants to get qualified buyers.

Those buyers are clearly underwater at the moment of sale and likely for a few years afterward depending on what gets rolled into the mortgage.
Posted by Tomatocantender
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I don't see how this is shocking to people.


What's shocking to me is two metro cities less than 75 miles from each other take the 1st and 2nd spot in the entire US, beating out shithole places like Detroit, Oakland etc.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4796 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:01 am to
quote:

ell, $0 down home sales like Horton and DSLD tend to use the rural development grants to get qualified buyers.

Those buyers are clearly underwater at the moment of sale and likely for a few years afterward depending on what gets rolled into the mortgage.


Excellent point!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:02 am to
Property in Detroit is so cheap, at least for the actual real estate, that you won’t be underwater for that.

County and city property taxes? That’s different.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:02 am to
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Makes sense bc Nola is below sea level and the pumps are old
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:05 am to
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like Horton and DSLD


Let's not leave off Alvarez. They are the local DSLD builders who will throw up cheap houses/developments anywhere they can.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:08 am to
I’m familiar with the first two because they are in my area. Have not seen the third.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:09 am to
Literally and figuratively as well
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

What's shocking to me is two metro cities less than 75 miles from each other take the 1st and 2nd spot in the entire US, beating out shithole places like Detroit, Oakland etc.


Metro Detroit pretty prosperous compared to South Louisiana. Have you ever been to Auburn Hills, Ann Arbor, Bloomfield Hills, or Birmingham? Lots of automotive R&D, Finance, and Tech.

Oakland is across the Bay from Silicon Valley, the wealthiest metropolitan area in the country.
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