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re: Great YT video "How the US Is Destroying Young People’s Future"

Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:27 pm to
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ill humor you, lets say i want to live in Houston


Houston is huge. Can you narrow it down? You’re going to work inside/outside loop? What quadrant?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53011 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:28 pm to
I'm 30 and made less than $50k for most of my 20's, am debt free outside of my mortgage. Did not receive any outside help.

Owe roughly $100k on a 3 bd, 2 ba, 1400 sq ft house that was built in 2018, just my wife and I.

What saved me was making good decisions, staying away from car payments, and getting married a little later (27). Also, don't have any kids yet.

I think there is merit to both arguments, it is definitely harder in ways than it was for previous generations but I think there is a path for success though still, you just have to be smart and look for it.

The average kid these days isn't very intelligent, blame their parents for that.

A person can make good money these days if they're just flexible, smart, and reliable, that is an advantage to living in the current times, the workforce sucks so bad that you can standout by just doing the little things right.

Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
1367 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Ahh yes the "Millenials/Gen Z'ers singe-handedly put Biden in office and are to blame for everything" trope.

I believe all the tiresome old talking points have now made it into the thread.


Ironic that one of the talking points earlier in this thread was how 1973 was the peak year before we started to decline... Guess what year Sleepy Joe first entered the United States Senate. Yet it's the fault of a generation that wasn't alive yet when his policies started effecting our country.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5039 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:34 pm to
This country sold off its industrial might to make A VERY FEW rich and powerful. Those very few learned buying politics was the easiest way to manage competition and rival innovation. Those very few learned that real estate was another growth industry they could dominate and inflate.

Instead of raging at "boomers" for ruining your life, stop cheering on corporate overlords and their political gangsters and join the good fight. But that's not what's happening. The younger generations, instead, have become cult-like useful idiots while the elite laugh.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6350 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:37 pm to
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A person can make good money these days if they're just flexible, smart, and reliable, that is an advantage to living in the current times, the workforce sucks so bad that you can standout by just doing the little things right.


i would even remove smart from this. If you're flexible and reliable, you can do well. If you're flexible and reliable, you don't have to worry about anything discussed in this thread. Add smart to that and you can do whatever you want.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14132 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:38 pm to
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. I wish the government could step in because that's the only way it'll end.

Like everything else the government touches, they'd only make things worse while simultaneously taking a slice for themselves.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6350 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:42 pm to
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The simple point is that it is more difficult than previous generations. Its just so weird how some can't admit such a basic thing.


the problem is generally, everyone goes to the extreme. And when questioned, "your side" (and i use that loosely because i don't' know you), generally goes to the extreme and says "THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE ANYWHERE" (or at least that's why i read) and then you pick up "my side" saying "WORK HARDER YOU LAZY TWATS" which isn't really what we're saying. In reality, there's so much nuance which is why several people have commented on the individual situation matters.

I would think anyone that cares and wants to buy a home shouldn't be lumped in with people that have no care to buy a home and just want to be on the government tit forever.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6350 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:51 pm to
also, demographics change over time as well. Someone mentioned 1973 so i looked up people on welfare in 1973 and found 7.4MM which was 3.5% of that years population. Today it's 41.2MM or 11% of the population. So right off the bat there's 7.5% of the population that likely isn't trying to buy a home but would be lumped into the overall numbers of people not being able to afford a home.

Note: this also brings into question "why so many more people" but i'm not sure if we want to cover that here.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6350 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:54 pm to
all that to say that while yes, i have no doubt the data posted in this thread is correct, the world is everchanging and you have to look at what makes up the data and and how other outside things change over time that could affect data.

ie: cell phone usage in in 1924 was 0%, today it's 97%. things change
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
1367 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:56 pm to
I think we can all agree that the "you think you deserve $20/hr to frick up my burger order" crowd sucks, no matter your age lol
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55843 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:56 pm to
catching up on this and it's exactly the same as all of the other threads with similar topics
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6350 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 1:58 pm to
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I think we can all agree that the "you think you deserve $20/hr to frick up my burger order" crowd sucks, no matter your age lol


I got into a “discussion” about this and it’s amazing to hear them defend it and criticize me for “supporting big corporate CEO’s”for being against it. The way they rationalize things is truly amazing.
Posted by HogPharmer
Member since Jun 2022
1367 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:03 pm to
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I got into a “discussion” about this and it’s amazing to hear them defend it and criticize me for “supporting big corporate CEO’s”for being against it. The way they rationalize things is truly amazing.


It's not shite for the CEO's. It's the consumer that's footing the bill. Then everyone acts all shocked when suddenly AI and robots are now taking their orders instead of a real person.
Posted by BrianFantana
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2012
475 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:09 pm to
What did I say that you disagree with?
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6350 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:10 pm to
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It's not shite for the CEO's. It's the consumer that's footing the bill. Then everyone acts all shocked when suddenly AI and robots are now taking their orders instead of a real person.


This is almost word for word how i responded and i was told i was a corporate shill.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50731 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Houston is huge. Can you narrow it down? You’re going to work inside/outside loop? What quadrant?


He didn't specify, but honestly these are the sorts of questions you ask when you can afford to live anywhere. Not when you're looking for a starter house.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6350 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:14 pm to
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He didn't specify, but honestly these are the sorts of questions you ask when you can afford to live anywhere.


what an asinine response. greater houston is the size of Massachusetts. I think he can narrow it down just a smidge. Otherwise i may pick something on the west side and i'll get criticized because it's too far away and be told im a boomer that hates yoots!!!. i want to be as specific as possible so we can see what we're dealing with.

but generally your response fits your ilk. Whenever someone wants to help or give advice, you move the goalposts. It's always someone else's fault.
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11468 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Most "boomers" are in their 70s. When they start passing, there will be a market glut and prices will fall again.
THIS! Boomers are the largest generation (or were up until just a few years ago). These are the generation that was common to be one of 5-6 siblings. Lot's of houses will hit the market in the next 10 years considering the youngest boomers will be in their 80's then.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14260 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:24 pm to
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1973 was the peak year before we started to decline


More like 1971. And what happened in 1971 with Nixon?
This post was edited on 5/6/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58190 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:43 pm to
What is wrong is, we have a government that can never stop spending, and because of the high interest on our national debt, and the money we have to print to pay on it, we are devaluing our current dollars and causing inflation.
Soon we will have stagflation and a market crash.
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