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Potato Joe going after hot water heaters now

Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:42 am
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:42 am
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The Department of Energy (DOE) finalized regulations Tuesday for a popular appliance that will push the market toward adopting heat pump technology.

The DOE’s final energy efficiency regulations for water heaters will apply to common electrical water heaters and significantly increase the share of those models that use heat pumps, according to the agency. The DOE has spearheaded the Biden administration’s efforts to push rules and regulations targeting appliances ranging from pool pump motors and lightbulbs to furnaces and portable generators.

“Almost every U.S. household has a water heater, and for too long outdated energy efficiency standards have led to higher utility bills for families,” Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm said in a statement about the new rules. “The Biden-Harris Administration is continuing to put American consumers first with new, effective rules—supported by industry—that save both energy and money.”

The new standards will lead to more than 50% of all newly-manufactured electric water heaters to use heat pump technology, a massive increase from the 3% seen in the market today, according to the DOE. Compliance with the new rules will be required starting in 2029.

The DOE’s new rules will require a “moderate” increase in the efficiency of gas-fired water heaters, the agency said. The DOE is still working on its efficiency standards for gas-powered water heaters, which are not included in Tuesday’s rulemaking action.

While the DOE considers models with heat pumps to be an important part of decarbonizing America’s building stock, those particular models tend to cost about $1,000 more up front than some alternatives and do not work as well in cold climates, according to Forbes.
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Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1401 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:07 pm to
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hot water heaters


Slightly off topic, but, it is not "hot water heaters." If the water is hot, then you do not have to heat it...
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9839 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:14 pm to
Remember when they said this was all just Republican conspiracy theories….
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
20614 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:17 pm to
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Slightly off topic, but, it is not "hot water heaters." If the water is hot, then you do not have to heat it...


Technically its maintaining hot water to be readily dispense.
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
2241 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:26 pm to
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If the water is hot, then you do not have to heat it..


Ah.. I had that Carlin bit on 8 track.
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
2241 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:28 pm to
The Gov loves them some stupid ideas.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
11779 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:30 pm to
FJB
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
33865 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:30 pm to
I'm never giving up my Rinnai tankless hot water heater
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
12088 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

The Biden-Harris Administration is continuing to put American consumers first with new, effective rules—supported by industry—that save both energy and money.”


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those particular models tend to cost about $1,000 more up front than some alternatives and do not work as well in cold climates, according to Forbes.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:32 pm to
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“The Biden-Harris Administration is continuing to put American consumers first with hot water that costs $1000 more.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
145573 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:32 pm to
Don’t worry. They will provide subsidies for the heat pump version increasing demand and making them even more expensive.

Idiocy.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13691 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Slightly off topic, but, it is not "hot water heaters." If the water is hot, then you do not have to heat it...

Well if you don’t heat it, the hot water just gets colder.

So a water heater doesn’t just make water hot, it continues to heat hot water.

Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
15291 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:34 pm to
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The Gov loves them some stupid ideas.
the gov serves to grow itself and justify its existence.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
64595 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Slightly off topic, but, it is not "hot water heaters." If the water is hot, then you do not have to heat it...

I bet you call it "corn on the cob" .and corn off the cob as just "corn". Should be opposite
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
23704 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:43 pm to
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If the water is hot, then you do not have to heat it...


Gotta keep it hot baw.
Posted by TigersBucs
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2009
1721 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:48 pm to
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hot water heaters


Why are people heating hot water?
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
8892 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Technically its maintaining hot water to be readily dispense.


Technically, it's HEATING WATER to be readily dispensed.

It is a Water Heater.
Posted by Oabafu
Wisconsin
Member since Jan 2022
1170 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 12:58 pm to
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The Biden-Harris Administration is continuing to put American consumers first with hot water that costs $1000 more.


1. I'm so happy I could just shite knowing that the POSUS is continuing to screw, err, put American Consumers first!!

2. $1000 more? With 33 years of US Govt work behind me, I've never known the govt to be in the same state, much LESS the 'ballpark', with their estimates of what something costs!!! You can PLAN on them costing 5x-10x the estimates not including cost overruns...

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
21592 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 1:06 pm to
After her sage advice for the military to turn main battle tanks to battery electric powered, anything she says is just more idiocy.
Posted by KCSilverTiger
KCMO
Member since Sep 2022
688 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 1:08 pm to
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I bet you call it "corn on the cob" .and corn off the cob as just "corn". Should be opposite


How have I never thought of this?
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