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re: AstraZeneca admits in court filings that its Covid vaccine can cause blood-clotting
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:29 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:29 am to RollTide1987
The AZ vaccine was identified early on as probably causing TTS and lost EUA approval in the United States. It is not an mRNA vaccine.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:29 am to lsupride87
quote:About whether or not the people who received this shot were told about the clotting concerns?
for a doctor scruffy is awfully misinformed here
Sure.
Did they receive it before the clotting concerns became public?
ETA: they received it after the EMA cleared the vaccine for use in April 2021, one month after it was suspended.
Also, AstraZeneca wasn’t used in the US.
I don’t think they even went through with the application
quote:Nope, they didn’t.
AstraZeneca has decided to withdraw its application for COVID vaccine Vaxzevria with the FDA, CEO Pascal Soriot told reporters during a press briefing Thursday.
Withdrawn in 2022.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:46 am
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:33 am to RollTide1987
Paging ClotshotPride87
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:34 am to saderade
quote:
AstraZeneca
quote:
I don’t believe their vaccine was even used in the United States.
IIRC it stayed exclusively in Europe.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:36 am to RollTide1987
What drugs these days don’t have side effects?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:37 am to fareplay
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What drugs these days don’t have side effects?
Shrooms
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:38 am to RollTide1987
If any of the Covid "vaccines" had gone through normal testing they would have been shut down during trials at 1/10000 of the incidents they have caused.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:39 am to TaderSalad
quote:
Paging ClotshotPride87
I prefer VaxxJabPride87
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:41 am to Corinthians420
quote:And then subsequently re-allowed in April 2021.
Its use was suspended almost immediately for this reason.
It was suspended for 1 month.
quote:One of the plaintiffs received the vaccine in April.
In April 2021, the EMA concluded its safety review and concluded that unusual blood clots with low blood platelets should be listed as very rare side effects while reaffirming the overall benefits of the vaccine.[43][169][70][71] Following this announcement EU countries have resumed use of the vaccine with some limiting its use to elderly people at higher risk for severe COVID-19 illness.[50][170]
The EMA is the organization which cleared it.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:43 am
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:44 am to Scruffy
The biggest issue here is that this entire debacle has resulted in a significant increase in anti-vaccine mentality.
I see more and more of them in the ER, as of late.
Cascading effects.
I see more and more of them in the ER, as of late.
Cascading effects.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:44 am to OysterPoBoy
quote:
I don't think we should be injecting people with Covid either.
Should we not be injecting people with polio, measles, etc, either?
Look, I completely get the animosity that persists due to the mandates. I genuinely do. What I don't really understand is why people don't seem to be secure in their opposition to the mandates, and instead incessantly search for silly nitpicks regarding the vaccine itself in order to justify their already justifiable opposition.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:47 am to Joshjrn
quote:Correct. Being against mandates needs no other justification
Look, I completely get the animosity that persists due to the mandates. I genuinely do. What I don't really understand is why people don't seem to be secure in their opposition to the mandates, and instead incessantly search for silly nitpicks regarding the vaccine itself in order to justify their already justifiable opposition.
Thinking a vaccine having rare side effects is a story or news does nothing but make one look foolish.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:49 am to lsupride87
quote:Where the people in this thread are very misguided is that this situation doesn’t apply to the USA at all for a few reason, the most notable being the vaccine in question was never used in the USA.
Thinking a vaccine having rare side effects is a story or news does nothing but make one look foolish.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:53 am to Joshjrn
quote:
Should we not be injecting people with polio, measles, etc, either?
Look, I completely get the animosity that persists due to the mandates. I genuinely do. What I don't really understand is why people don't seem to be secure in their opposition to the mandates, and instead incessantly search for silly nitpicks regarding the vaccine itself in order to justify their already justifiable opposition.
my favorite is the "they changed the definition of a vaccine" crowd
Vaccines have always had efficacy rates, something not being 100% effective does not prevent it from being a vaccine.
The Salk vaccine for Polio was declared 90% effective against Types II and III poliovirus and 60 to 70% effective against Type I.
Two doses of MMR vaccine are 88% (range 32% to 95%) effective at preventing mumps.
RSV Vaccine efficacy was 68.4% (95% CI, 50.9 to 79.7) against RSV-associated acute respiratory disease
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:01 pm to Corinthians420
quote:
my favorite is the "they changed the definition of a vaccine" crowd
The NIH did this overnight on their website in the late summer of 2021. A month later Biden announced in front of Marines in an extremely creepy speech that the US is losing its patience with the unvaxxed and he will be attaching to OSHA to mandate vaxxes as a 1-shot-fits-all herd approach.
If you don't have a problem with this then you're a fkking loser.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:02 pm to RollTide1987
Why are we still talking about this? You had a choice to get the vaccine or not.
I didn’t get the shot. No one forced me. It was a choice.
I didn’t get the shot. No one forced me. It was a choice.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:04 pm to TCO
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You had a choice to get the vaccine or not.
A mandate is not a choice. How heavy is the rock you're living under?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:06 pm to Tomatocantender
quote:
A mandate is not a choice. How heavy is the rock you're living under?
No one mandated me. I’m not the one bitching about it years later.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:08 pm to TCO
quote:Let us be honest here, many people did not have a “real” choice.
You had a choice to get the vaccine or not.
If I were to refuse, I would have lost my position at the hospital I worked at and subsequently the decade of training that I had undergone would have gone to waste.
Situations like that aren’t really “choices”.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:11 pm to TCO
quote:
No one mandated me.
It was mandated on millions of people who worked for a company over a certain size (100 or more employees iirc) thru OSHA and via CMS if you worked in healthcare that receives Medicare/Medicaid reimbursement. You are about as out of touch as any poster I've seen on TD. Congrats on that I guess.
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