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re: Non-Compete agreements are now illegal nationwide!

Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3160 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

Pretty fricking stupid to waste legal resources on one disgruntled employee


In my industry one employee can control relationships that are worth 10+million in sales.

Wouldn’t say you’d be wasting resources enforcing a non compete

That being said I’m glad they’re gone
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36637 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:53 pm to
quote:


In my industry one employee can control relationships that are worth 10+million in sales.


Sounds like the company was dumb to allow one employee to have that much power.

And I'm sure that company didn't mind raking in all the dough. It was only a problem when that employee wanted to bring that dough to another company, right?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28328 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 6:58 pm to
They aren't gone
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28328 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:00 pm to
“No matter how important, conspicuous and controversial the issue, and no matter how wise the administrative solution, an administrative agency’s power to regulate must always be grounded in the valid grant of authority from Congress. Because we lacked that authority, the final rule is unlawful.”
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7340 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:01 pm to
What gives them the authority to outlaw something? Last I checked that power is supposed to rest with Congress.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20927 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

'm on the fence on these. If you sign it, you sign it, why is the government involved?


Unless the employee is adequately compensated for these (which almost never happens) it's at the detriment to the employee.

It doesn't serve any business except to limit competition in the market place. Why are we in favor of this again?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Imagine the audacity of a business to protect their investment and operations. How selfish of them.


they are very one sided is the problem.

i have one sitting on my desk that i still haven’t signed.

if i don’t perform to the level expected of me, they aren’t going to keep me around at my current position/salary.

but if i outperform those expectations, they have no reason to up my compensation, because i’m not a threat to leave (without leaving the industry i’ve been in for over 20 years now).

without the non-compete both myself and the company have motivation to perform at or above expectations.

Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7340 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

It doesn't serve any business except to limit competition in the market place. Why are we in favor of this again?


You don’t have to agree with non-compete agreements to think it’s an overstep by the FTC to outlaw it. I’m sick of government overreach.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
3755 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:21 pm to
Ah the corporate bootlickers of the OT have not disappointed.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25243 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:22 pm to
Be right back, making copies of all my firms client lists and contact info. Its a new day fellas!



Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36637 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:27 pm to
quote:


You don’t have to agree with non-compete agreements to think it’s an overstep by the FTC to outlaw it. I’m sick of government overreach.


It's not overreach if private corporations won't stop this willingly.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7340 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:31 pm to
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It's not overreach if private corporations won't stop this willingly.


It’s overreach because it’s unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats making the decision, instead of congress as required by the constitution.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10506 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:35 pm to
Wow


This is kind of a game changer
Fwiw
Law goes into effect in august




And also fwiw, it’s not a liberal/ conservative thing- lots of highly paid conservatives benefit from this

This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 7:39 pm
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
804 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:38 pm to
Guess which profession was never allowed to have non competes? Lawyers at law firms.

Yep - they wrote the rules so they don’t have to play by them. Don’t give me the fiduciary duty bullshite argument either. It’s as clear
as day, rules for yall but not for legal baw!
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 7:41 pm
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
804 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:52 pm to
It’s market interference
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36637 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:55 pm to
quote:



It’s overreach because it’s unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats making the decision, instead of congress as required by the constitution.


As opposed to unelected, corporate bureaucrats who made the decision that right to work does NOT apply to employees and that they can be held to NCC?
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84893 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

I’m sick of government overreach.


Preventing industry from interfering with the free market for their own purposes is EXACTLY why the government should be doing.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84893 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

instead of congress as required by the constitution.


lol you don’t know a fricking thing about the constitution
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90886 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:14 pm to
Non competes should only apply while employed.

Example: you work for a company that provides a service. You cannot compete against the company by offering the same service on the side to companies’ clients trying to undercut them.

But once your employment with someone is terminated, you should be able to do whatever
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10506 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

But once your employment with someone is terminated, you should be able to do whatever


It gets tricky

Employees can manipulate it. They can behave in such a way as to get fired.

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