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re: How many people on this forum still believe it was ever about Trump?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:21 am to TenWheelsForJesus
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:21 am to TenWheelsForJesus
Democrats won't take him. They develop their candidates and make sure there is competent management of them. Every once in a while they get bad ones like Hillary who had way too much baggage and high negatives.
Republicans have had trouble fielding really good candidates. GWB became a good candidate because he had good competent and experienced people around him like Rove and Card as well as Dick Cheney who knew how to work the system. Organization wins elections, not message. Generally the more disciplined the candidate and campaign, the better the overall results. 2016 though was an outlier on this but then, Trump was running against someone with very high negatives with an arrogant streak.
Republicans have had trouble fielding really good candidates. GWB became a good candidate because he had good competent and experienced people around him like Rove and Card as well as Dick Cheney who knew how to work the system. Organization wins elections, not message. Generally the more disciplined the candidate and campaign, the better the overall results. 2016 though was an outlier on this but then, Trump was running against someone with very high negatives with an arrogant streak.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:21 am to SDVTiger
You're a known liar here, Tate.
Tell everyone about bump stock chambers again you fricking retard.
Tell everyone about bump stock chambers again you fricking retard.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:23 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Im not the one who said it fires 3 bullets from its chamber like you did
And you claim to be ex military
And you claim to be ex military
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:26 am to SDVTiger
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Im not the one who said it fires 3 bullets from its chamber
You're the only one who has said that, Tate.
Like I said...a known liar.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:26 am to SDVTiger
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Weve been posting evidence of Trumps fiscal failures for years
No you havent.
Youre just too retarded to understand shite.
If MAGA were a real person, it would be you. You are the perfect sycophant.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 8:27 am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
I figured you wouldnt be able to answer coherently. Just more crying
You had to have alaska pay you to move there and live off Govy support
but please enlighten us about economics and how you hate wealthy ppl like a good kommie
You had to have alaska pay you to move there and live off Govy support
but please enlighten us about economics and how you hate wealthy ppl like a good kommie
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:41 am to Bass Tiger
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It was never about Trump,
I guess I never actually read all those posts that contain some version of "Trump is the only one _____________".
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:00 pm to WonTonDonWon
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WonTonDonWon
Whose alter are you? SFP? HHTM?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:08 pm to Bass Tiger
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hate and vitriol directed against Trump on this forum
Really? I guess you haven't visited Reddit Politics or Straight Dope or even listened to what some of the potential jurors called him last week. (Yes, the people making bad comments were dismissed out of hand.) This forum is as close as it gets to pro-Trump.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:32 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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If Trump was so good for the uniparty, why are they working so hard to prevent him from being president again? Until you can provide a logical answer to this question, your arguments are irrelevant.
The majority of the "uniparty" Republicans backed Trump last year (Graham, McCarthy etc...) They all seek his endorsement and follow his lead (see Ukraine funding timeline). They aren't working to prevent him from becoming President.
Democrats in a stunning turn of events are actively trying to prevent Trump from winning. Shocking us all.
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No other politician has received even 10% of the hatred Trump has, so he must be doing something right.
You don't know what he's doing right? Why would you let the people you hate determine who you support in the Republican party? I don't care what the people who hate Trump think about anything.
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Menendez
Trump thought he congratulated Menendez for beating a corruption charge LINK
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"You went through a tough, tough situation and I don't think a very fair situation but congratulations."
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Trump is not perfect, but he's one of the few politicians that actually loves this country and is the best America First candidate we have.
You have no idea if this is true. You just love him and see him through rose colored glasses.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:53 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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bullshite. If it were never about Trump, y'all wouldn't mount such a fervent defense at any hint of criticism of the dude.
The fervent defense? You and your pathetic ilk is the cause of that fervent defense.
Going all in with a Navy sailor former poster days after the election and framing Trump as a Russian asset created that fervent defense you whine about now.
So, not only are you a little bitch woman. But you’re a whiny little bitch woman.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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If it were never about Trump, y'all wouldn't mount such a fervent defense at any hint of criticism of the dude.
Trump is the ONLY one in a position to make the changes that need to be made.
Trump is not about pro-life vs pro-choice.
He is not about Ukraine vs Russia.
He is not even about securing the border.
ANY candidate can play games with those issues.
Trump is a once in a lifetime chance to bring our corrupt government down a few notches.
Think about it. Who did you vote for in the primary elections? Who chose those candidates to be on the ballot? Who funded those candidates so that they would have enough money to run a campaign?
You got a chance to cast a vote for a candidate that your party decided was worthy enough to be on the ballot. They don't choose people who want to expose the corrupt underbelly of DC. The choose people who are invested in the game.
Trump didn't ask the party for permission to run and they never thought he would be a threat. Until it was too late. They are doing their damndest to make sure he doesn't have another chance.
So yeah, it is about Trump, but more importantly, it is about the opportunity he represents, and that scares the corrupt establishment on both sides to death.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:07 pm to Errerrerrwere
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The fervent defense?
Yes. I'm not talking about the 8 years of whining because I'm mean to Trump. I'm talking about you idiots who pretend Trump didn't frick us over while in office.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:08 pm to Jax-Tiger
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So yeah, it is about Trump
Yeah...no shite. It's fricking weird.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:09 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Trump is a once in a lifetime chance to bring our corrupt government down a few notches.
Trump was already a once in a lifetime chance to bring our corrupt government down a few notches. Did he?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:13 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yeah...no shite. It's fricking weird.
It's only about Trump because their is nobody else to do what he's doing. Nobody else who can get themselves on the ballot and say the things he's saying.
The RNC is going to eventually put in place steps to keep anybody who thinks about being the next Trump off the ballot.
It will take a guy like Elon Musk to do what Trump is doing and Musk ain't eligible, and probably not charismatic enough.
The Trump revolution is a continuation of the Tea Party. We don't want the government to be in complete control of our lives from cradle to grave..
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:15 pm to Jax-Tiger
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It's only about Trump because their is nobody else to do what he's doing.
There's no one else in politics who can feed the electorate what they want to hear and then go against that when they're elected?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Only ones doing that are Democrats.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 4:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You've attributed what Congress did to 'Trump only' actions, while also saddling him with 100% of the Covid spending which wasn't his doing.
You've been utterly dishonest.
You've been utterly dishonest.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 7:12 pm to WonTonDonWon
quote:I referred to his interviews way back, when there was no inkling he'd ever run for office (but was a well-known NY businessman).
Thanks. I can't disagree with much of what you said. Your opinion of him stepping in to do better. I disagree with it. ( I should say as his main motivation) But that's your opinion and a plausible one.
Guys like that know how to run an organization, and understand the dynamics involved. That can translate to a government. He completely conceded that the public life would be brutal in that interview, and said it is why most don't make the jump.
At some point, his aversion to public attacks no longer was enough to keep him out of politics. Whether it was naked ambition or not, he seems to have an idea on what to do, and it seemed to be effective.
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