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Did It All Start with the Hippies?

Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:22 pm
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:22 pm
The current state of America, the liberal and…different…groups that have been permeating through our society the past few years, did all of this start with the hippies in the 60’s?

Basically, what I’m saying is that, before flower power took over, most people were pretty straight-forward and, for lack of a better term, “normal” according to conservative society. If someone was “different”, they kept it hidden. It wasn’t out in the open and wasn’t celebrated.

Did the hippie movement forever change American society? Did it lead to the breakdown of conservative values that we see today?
Posted by WillieD
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:27 pm to
Robert Bork claimed it started in the 1920s

Hmmmm... What event taking place in 1920 could be responsible?

Hint: I don't mean prohibition.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:28 pm to
You do realize the 70’s and Regan era punk rockers were the anti hippie movement.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:28 pm to
you can look at it from two different perspectives.

did it start with a war that was started for no other reason than to line politician and bureaucrats pockets while simultaneously broadening the reach of the intelligence community?

or the hippies?

Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:29 pm to
I think it was broadcast television that created the environment for growth of competing and divergent paths of societal issues.

I wasn’t old enough, but have heard about the uproar over television showing Elvis dancing and that it wasn’t appropriate for TV and mass consumption. Broadcast allow a few groups to cast their thoughts/actions to many others and it spread from there. It was no longer contained to a town or region.
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
2007 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:30 pm to
What inspired me to start this thread was someone mentioned in another thread that, 30-40 years ago, you didn’t see all the “trans” movement you see now. Where did this come from?
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1008 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:31 pm to
Why blame the hippies? Blame the parents of hippies why don’t ya?
But seriously I think it’s technology that is making people less social and glued to their phones. Pushing goofy propaganda weak bullish!t
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:38 pm to
This started wayyyy before the dirty hippies of the 60s. Look to Rousseau as a starting point.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:38 pm to
The hippies of the 60s are now in their 70s, and all over Congress.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:38 pm to
It really all started going sideways with Gavrilo Princip
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:39 pm to
Started with the commies after we beat the notsees.

Wasn't it a famous American general that said we fought the wrong enemy?
Posted by Rust Cohle
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:39 pm to
For some reason most people can’t think past LBJ. But you can trace change back to the new phenomenon of youth culture in the 20s, postmodernism, Age of Enlightenment, Martin Luther’s reformation and the printing press, the Catholic Church. It’s all connected, and a part of modernity, the good and the bad.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 9:43 pm
Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1131 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:43 pm to
It was us allowing commies to infiltrate every facet of our society after WWII. They took root in government, universities, media and chipped away little by little until here we are. We should have kept heading east instead of basically stopping in Germany.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:53 pm to
Why can’t people just be normal? It just seems so abnormal these days.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2254 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:54 pm to
The flappers and womens lib movement started a few years after the fed reserve was created.

And will get downvotes for that, but if you can get women into the work force, you get more tax revenue and with their kids in public schools, no child would miss out on a globalist education. Just had to do it gradually transform society over several decades.
This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Celery
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:55 pm to
Transcendentalism
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:58 pm to
It started in earnest from the greatest generation WW2. What I mean is they went through some shite. And if you made it through and came back home it changed you.

Then it was time for peace and babies. And babies they had. And I think they looked at life a bit differently so that baby gen grew up with some radical college and other teachers.

And music changed. Protesting was ok. And it started a path that could not be changed. We got into Korea and the military had been gutted after WW2. And vets didn’t want to fight another war. And neither did their kids (who were kids during WW2).

And after that we did Viet Nam. And that generation knew all the horror from stories about WW2 as it was still fresh to them. So the left educated gen plus most people did not support wars any longer and it just grew. In the 70’s for example in Jax (big Navy city) there were signs “Dogs and Sailors keep off the grass”.

But to me it all started post WW2 when everyone wanted to live in peace here and that didn’t last long with Korea. Lots of memorials for WW2 still going on and fresh.

I sometimes wonder had McArthur stopped way shorter from China border then maybe they don’t send troops over border and we win. And that might have changed things. As it drug out parents didn’t want to send kids to fight in it. That was a part of it. But it was all the war events after WW2 that people drew likes and protests started to gain legs. And Nam just blew it all up.
Posted by MurphyGator
Member since Jul 2021
1089 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:58 pm to
I know several former 60s hippies who are big Trump supporters. A lot of former hippies are Trump supporters from what I've been told. It is because of their long distrust of the government.
Posted by HooDooWitch
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Member since Sep 2009
10290 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:07 pm to
I believe it is the government and elites that want to control society. They were successful destroying the African American family structure. Now they are destroying everyone else’s family structure. Less God and more tattoos, everyone in the family has to work to provide the level of comfort people aspire to. More tax dollars and more control.

What I find interesting is the Hippie movement of the 60’s was anti government, but the hippie types today seem to be pro government, pro shot, believe everything the media and gov shoves down their throats. Quite a change!
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