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re: Ukraine will lose only if MAGA Republicans cut off U.S. aid

Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7986 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:06 pm to
Sounds like Ukraine has no business being a country then, tough shite. Situations like this have happened time and time again throughout history.

Learn your history, trust the history

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31589 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:06 pm to
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Actually Ukraine wins if they cut a deal now before they lose another 500k soldiers. They are not getting that land back.


Too bad Zelenski took that decision away from the Ukrainian people. We are supporting their extermination to launder money and political points.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81250 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:16 pm to
You cited Max Boot. That's like citing HHTM or IBFreeman.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22344 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:18 pm to
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Too bad Zelenski took that decision away from the Ukrainian people.

And when the US taxpayers are done funding this war, Zelenski will retire and walk away with $100s of millions. Just like every other Ukraine president.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6874 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:34 pm to
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It's a battle of attrition. Ukraine can't win.


And the longer the war lasts, the more territory Russia will conquer.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31589 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:47 pm to
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And the longer the war lasts, the more territory Russia will conquer.


Bannon's guy said Russia already has what they want.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25272 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:50 pm to
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Ukraine will lose only if MAGA Republicans cut off U.S. aid

False.

Ukraine has already lost.

The hundreds of billions of tax dollars (of which a percentage wasn't laundered back into Congress members' bank accounts) that have been sent to Ukraine have only prolonged the inevitable.

Future funding will also be laundered mostly back into Congress members' bank accounts, but what does actually make it to Ukraine will also only prolong the inevitable.

Every dollar our illustrious leadership fleeces out of us to send over there, only results in more death, bloodshed and suffering for the people of Ukraine.

This could have been over a year ago when Russia and Ukraine were both ready to come to the table and negotiate, but former US Intelligence and representatives stepped in to strongly advise Ukraine to keep fighting. This could have been completely avoided if the spineless GOPe had not accepted the results of the obviously and demonstrably fraudulent election of 2020, and Donald J. Trump had rightfully retained his desk in the Oval Office.

This is all a bunch of horse shite. All of it. US leadership, both current and former, are simultaneously skull dragging the people of America, Russia and Ukraine into oblivion. And they don't care. And we bitch on the internet about it and do nothing.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131569 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:50 pm to
Ukraine has already been defeated.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31589 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:53 pm to
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Ukraine has already lost.


Exactly.

Our illustrious leaders have given them false hope while letting their boys be slaughtered.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17505 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:55 pm to
Charles Lindbergh was an outspoken Nazi supporter, not an America First’er. Not surprising he advised giving up Europe in total. It’s also pretty much the equivalent of LeBrain Jones giving his opinion on Ukraine today, celebrity endorsements.

I’m waiting for the SPCA type commercials with some washed up lib chick singer some melancholy tune over a background of sad dirty Ukrainians: for just $3.50/month you can save the Ukraine!
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
13315 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:57 pm to
Ukraine is going to lose no matter if we give them 100 TRILLION $ - It's a lost cause. Ukraine has a shitty military with shitty leaders
Posted by Slim
Poplarville, Mississippi
Member since Sep 2006
2523 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:58 pm to
Maybe Joe and Hunter Biden can send back some of the money they received from Ukraine
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 7:59 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31589 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:00 pm to
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You cited Max Boot. That's like citing HHTM or IBFreeman.



Doesn't matter.

The GOP got played again. 3/4ths of them want the money for a losing battle at the same time they will be blamed for losing even if the money is sent. I guess it's a win win for the GOPe.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2554 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:00 pm to
Test
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25272 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

loogaroo

quote:

Our illustrious leaders have given them false hope while letting their boys be slaughtered.


Yep. Ukraine leadership is literally conscripting the elderly. Meanwhile, the Call of Duty keyboard warriors over on the O-T thread are still absolutely convinced that Russia is getting their shite pushed in.

These are bizarre times in which we exist, where a segment of the population appears to terminally exist within a false, alternative reality. When Ukraine ultimately falls and it ends up being a total takeover by Russia instead of a reasonably amicable agreement at the bargaining table, I'm anticipating a wave of O-T posters opting out.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5884 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:24 pm to
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Western aid deliveries “will not change anything” and “can only prolong the suffering of the Ukrainian people.”

Anyone with a brain knows this
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9460 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:57 pm to
shite.... It was obvious from day one.... Only folks filled up on the MSM Kool aid believed Ukraine ever had any hope of defeating Russia. They have more solders, more weapons, more ammo, and more resolve. And..... Russia has "right" on their side! The west (America) has been poking the Bear for decades.... We should have dealt with Russia as a friend and brought them into the west. Instead, we've driven them into deeper relationships with all our enemies. Just stupid on our part
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96870 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:01 pm to
Ukraine’s going to lose short of us nuking Russia. Cut off the fricking spigot of cash.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1099 posts
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:09 pm to
The U.S. has historic cultural, ethnic, and philosophical ties with Britain. At the same time, if Britain fell, all of Europe would fall.

Neither of those things are true for Ukraine.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 9:10 pm
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10155 posts
Posted on 4/6/24 at 5:56 am to
History will blame the United States for the things that led up to this war and for how it ends.
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