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Is it really time to trade Reggie Bush?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:09 am
we have many needs and few picks
we will have some cap space once Patton and Deuce are cut (amongst others)
we have probably seen the best we will see from Reggie Bush in a Saints uniform and he is beginning to have health issues
Is now the time to trade him?
The Jets are moving into a new stadium, have a major need for a 3rd down back and would love to have someone with the star power of Bush to build a marketing campaign around. So Bush for S Kerry Rhodes and draft picks (both ways) a doable deal?
we will have some cap space once Patton and Deuce are cut (amongst others)
we have probably seen the best we will see from Reggie Bush in a Saints uniform and he is beginning to have health issues
Is now the time to trade him?
The Jets are moving into a new stadium, have a major need for a 3rd down back and would love to have someone with the star power of Bush to build a marketing campaign around. So Bush for S Kerry Rhodes and draft picks (both ways) a doable deal?
This post was edited on 12/17/08 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:27 am to supatigah
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The Jets are moving into a new stadium, have a major need for a 3rd down back
leon washington?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:37 am to supatigah
no, not yet, we still have alot of his contract to handle
Posted on 12/17/08 at 9:57 am to Boomshockalocka
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leon washington
:kige:
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:02 am to Boomshockalocka
Bush >>> Washington
plus I don't think Madison Ave is clamoring for a national campaign centered around the amazing starpower of Leon Washington either
plus I don't think Madison Ave is clamoring for a national campaign centered around the amazing starpower of Leon Washington either
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:05 am to supatigah
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Bush >>> Washington
Only in starpower
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:12 am to Boomshockalocka
come on, Leon Washington is a good return man but he doesn't bring much to their offense
Bush gets a bad rep for running between the tackles but the Saints OL is so laughably bad a run blocking that we really don't know what Bush is capable of as a RB. But as a receiver out of the backfield he is a far bigger threat than Leon Washington
Bush gets a bad rep for running between the tackles but the Saints OL is so laughably bad a run blocking that we really don't know what Bush is capable of as a RB. But as a receiver out of the backfield he is a far bigger threat than Leon Washington
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:22 am to supatigah
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The Jets are moving into a new stadium
what stadium?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:30 am to H-Town Tiger
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the PSLs for the Jets and the Giants in their new stadium are supposed to be sky high. Can't build a marketing campaign around the decaying Brett Favre in 2010.
the PSLs for the Jets and the Giants in their new stadium are supposed to be sky high. Can't build a marketing campaign around the decaying Brett Favre in 2010.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:30 am to H-Town Tiger
Brett Favruhruhruh Wrangler Jeans Stadium.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:39 am to The Sad Banana
If he sucks so bad, how are we going to get anything of value for him? This is the fundamental problem with the "I hate Bush, trade him for something valuable" thread. If you're right, and he's a bust, who would take him?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 10:43 am to Laaz2750
he doesnt "suck so bad"
but the question is, would his stock ever get any higher than it is now?
but the question is, would his stock ever get any higher than it is now?
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:02 am to supatigah
Washington averages 5.9 yards per carry to Bush's 3.8. He has about 40 less rushing yards than Bush, but on 43 less carries. He has scored 5 rushing TD's to Bush's 2. Washington has over 300 yards receiving and a pair of rec. td's so it's not like he can't catch. And he is a better return man than Bush. So tell me again, why the hell the Jets would take a huge hit to their salary cap to take on an inferior player? While it may be time to trade Bush, the suggestion that the Jets would somehow want him is laughable.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:22 am to dnwsr
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Washington averages 5.9 yards per carry to Bush's 3.8. He has about 40 less rushing yards than Bush, but on 43 less carries. He has scored 5 rushing TD's to Bush's 2. Washington has over 300 yards receiving and a pair of rec. td's so it's not like he can't catch. And he is a better return man than Bush. So tell me again, why the hell the Jets would take a huge hit to their salary cap to take on an inferior player? While it may be time to trade Bush, the suggestion that the Jets would somehow want him is laughable.
that is all fine and dandy, but comparing their stats when:
1) Bush has played hurt this year
2) Washington has a MUCH better OL to run behind
3) the NYJ have an overall MUCH better running game than the Saints do
4) the NYJ do everything they can to keep Favre from losing the game throwing the ball while the Saints expect Brees to win the game throwing the ball for them
pretty much makes the stats meaningless
and why do you think Washington isnt about to get a big contract?
Washington's contract:
CONTRACT INFO: 7/22/2006: Signed a four-year contract. 2008: $445,000, 2009: $530,000, 2010: Free Agent
or that Bush would be a huge cap hit for the Jets?
Bush's contract:
7/29/2006: Signed a six-year, $52.5 million contract. The deal contains $26.31 million guaranteed, including a $12.5 million option bonus in the second year and $9.5 million in incentives. 2008: $1.55 million, 2009: $2.225 million (+ $4 million roster bonus), 2010: $2.9 million, 2011: $3.575 million, 2012: Free Agent
Most of the big money on Bush's contract has already been paid out by the Saints.
but let me repeat, Bush is a marketable star in a place where stars matter and Washington is a nobody, especially considering the eventual end of the Favre era, the dominance of the Giants and needing PSL sales for a new stadium in a slow economy. I don't think Washington's superior stats to Bush right now balance all of that out
so once again, the premise of the thread is now the time to really consider trading Bush and is a deal with the Jets for Rhodes doable? I think it is time to trade him and I think the Jets would be the perfect place for him.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:24 am to dnwsr
If we would have got into the playoffs no one would be asking this question.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:25 am to dnwsr
If we would have got into the playoffs no one would be asking this question.
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:34 am to supatigah
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we have many needs and few picks
Disagree. Have a healthy year, Hartley continues to kick well, get a ball hawking cover safety, a better DC, Payton using Bush more in the 2 back set like in 2006, an upgrade at LT(and RT) and C, and this team goes from .500 to SuperBowl contenders. That is not too much to ask for with our current picks and FA.
This post was edited on 12/17/08 at 11:36 am
Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:38 am to supatigah
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Bush's contract:
7/29/2006: Signed a six-year, $52.5 million contract. The deal contains $26.31 million guaranteed, including a $12.5 million option bonus in the second year and $9.5 million in incentives. 2008: $1.55 million, 2009: $2.225 million (+ $4 million roster bonus), 2010: $2.9 million, 2011: $3.575 million, 2012: Free Agent
Most of the big money on Bush's contract has already been paid out by the Saints.
Bush signed a new contract before this season. Changes things--his base salaries are WAY higher now...
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Posted on 12/17/08 at 11:39 am to TigerinATL
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get a ball hawking cover safety,
via FA?
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Payton using Bush more in the 2 back set like in 2006,
with Thomas? because Deuce is gone in 2009 imho
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an upgrade at LT(and RT) and C
damn, all three hunh?
and funny but you don't mention the second worst unit on the defense (after the safeties) - the LBers
so with limited cap space and a 1st rounder and not much else in this upcoming draft, how do you propose to upgrade at three OL spots, OLB and both safeties?
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