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re: Standard pregnancy care is now dangerously disrupted in Louisiana, report reveals

Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:59 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:59 am to
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You want women to be able to kill inconvenient babies, we get it.


This is your takeaway? I’m a woman of childbearing age, with tons of friends and relatives who are also women of childbearing ages.
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1653 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:00 am to
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How often does that happen compared to the other way around, pray-tell....


Often enough that it's the part of the point of the posted article. But no doubt you're ok with it as long as it's not your wife.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:00 am to
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Agreed, because abortions can legally be performed in instances like this.


When a bunch of non-medical professionals get to determine this, people have concerns about their vulnerability to serve jail time and lose their medical licenses.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:02 am to
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Physicians are also delaying treatment of miscarriage and ectopic pregnancy out of fear of breaking the law

I find this really hard to believe re: ectopic pregnancies. And if a physician is delaying treatment of these bc he’s worried about the law, I think he’s too “afraid” to be a doctor. I can’t fathom charges against a physician for appropriately removing an ectopic fetus…no matter what you want to call the procedure required to do so.
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1653 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:10 am to
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I find this really hard to believe re: ectopic pregnancies. And if a physician is delaying treatment of these bc he’s worried about the law, I think he’s too “afraid” to be a doctor. I can’t fathom charges against a physician for appropriately removing an ectopic fetus…no matter what you want to call the procedure required to do so.


Who wants to risk their life and livelihood on the whims of a lawmaker (who isn't a doctor and isn't in the room) who decides that a mother's life wasn't in enough danger to do the procedure.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79044 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:12 am to
Whatever NPR has to do or say to keep the white ladies in a moral panic.
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1653 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:12 am to
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I’m a woman


This is unfortunately the part where most of this board stops caring about what you have to say.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:14 am to
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Who wants to risk their life and livelihood on the whims of a lawmaker (who isn't a doctor and isn't in the room) who decides that a mother's life wasn't in enough danger to do the procedure.

There need not be any determination of “danger to the mother” in the case of ectopics. They are nonviable 100% of the time. Prompt removal is standard of care. I have yet to see any legislation that makes that illegal. I’m willing to be enlightened though if you have a link
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7589 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:16 am to
It's actually true. I'm as pro-life redblooded as there comes, but I have an unfortunate friend that had a miscarriage a few weeks ago. Her water broke at 20 weeks. The baby survived another 2 weeks, but died in the womb. Due to the new laws, they could have only either done a C-section or she would have to wait for the baby to be passed on its own. She carried it for another 10 days as she decided against surgery. This was her first child too. Heartbreaking. There definitely needs to be some adjustments to the law for medical intervention on miscarriage or ectopic pregnancies. As a father of two, and my wife also had a miscarriage, nobody should have to go through what my friend did.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 8:23 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6677 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:19 am to
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Louisiana already suffers from some of the highest rates of maternal mortality and morbidity in the nation.


LA is one of the fattest states. Fatties have trouble giving birth and being healthy in general. Was health of the mom before pregnancy sampled?
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13509 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:19 am to
Do you know how I know this libtarded biased NPR “report” is a fabricated falsehood to promote baby butchering 4cubbies?

Because none of the “victims” have sued the doctors for malpractice for withholding proper medical care!

Use your brain.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51862 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:23 am to
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What about babies inconveniently killing mothers?


I have no problems with exceptions for rape and life of the mother. Understand though, instances where the mother's life is in jeopardy in such a manner that an abortion is necessary are pretty rare. The vast majority of abortions are done for prophylactic reasons.

quote:

Women’s reasons for seeking an abortion fell into 11 broad themes. The predominant themes identified as reasons for seeking abortion included financial reasons (40%), timing (36%), partner related reasons (31%), and the need to focus on other children (29%). Most women reported multiple reasons for seeking an abortion crossing over several themes (64%). Using mixed effects multivariate logistic regression analyses, we identified the social and demographic predictors of the predominant themes women gave for seeking an abortion.


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The largest of the US studies included in the review, by Finer and colleagues, utilized data from a structured survey conducted in 2004 with 1,209 abortion patients across the US, as well as open-ended, in-depth interviews conducted with 38 patients from four facilities, nearly half of whom were in their second trimester of pregnancy. Quantitative data from this study were compared to survey data collected from nationally representative samples in 1987 and 2000. The most commonly reported reasons for abortion in 2004 (selected from a researcher-generated list of possible reasons with write-in options for other reasons) were largely similar to those found in the 1987 study. The top three reason categories cited in both studies were: 1) “Having a baby would dramatically change my life” (i.e., interfere with education, employment and ability to take care of existing children and other dependents) (74% in 2004 and 78% in 1987), 2) “I can’t afford a baby now” (e.g., unmarried, student, can’t afford childcare or basic needs) (73% in 2004 and 69% in 1987), and 3) “I don’t want to be a single mother or am having relationship problems” (48% in 2004 and 52% in 1987). A sizeable proportion of women in 2004 and 1987 also reported having completed their childbearing (38% and 28%), not being ready for a/another child (32% and 36%), and not wanting people to know they had sex or became pregnant (25% and 33%). Considering all of the reasons women reported, the authors observed that the reasons described by the majority of women (74%) signaled a sense of emotional and financial responsibility to individuals other than themselves, including existing or future children, and were multi-dimensional. Greater weeks of gestation were found to be related with citing concerns about fetal health as reasons for abortion. The authors did not examine associations between weeks of gestation with some of the other more frequently mentioned reasons for abortion.


Do you see what's missing from those most-mentioned categories in each study? Life of the mother and rape.

In other words: inconvenient babies.

This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 8:30 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50867 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:25 am to
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Often enough that it's the part of the point of the posted article.


Wrong. NPR is lying to you.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23297 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:26 am to
If an advocacy group give a a report to npr, what do you think the chances of it being complete horseshite are?

Hint: between 99.5 and 100 percent.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261958 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:28 am to
As if women and medical professionals dont love victimhood.

Jesus christ... this is beyond stale.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261958 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:28 am to
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If an advocacy group give a a report to npr, what do you think the chances of it being complete horseshite are?


She has no fricking clue.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50432 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:30 am to
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Who wants to risk their life and livelihood on the whims of a lawmaker (who isn't a doctor and isn't in the room) who decides that a mother's life wasn't in enough danger to do the procedure.



This is what people are failing to comprehend.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79044 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:30 am to
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This is unfortunately the part where most of this board stops caring about what you have to say.


- He says ironically as he panders and Mansplains to a longtime woman poster.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12255 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:32 am to
These dumb bitches are so pissed that they can’t go around bragging about how independent and free they are and have abortions and using that number as a badge of honor.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5074 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:34 am to
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people have concerns about their vulnerability to serve jail time and lose their medical licenses.


Has never happened and won't. The doctors are far left lunatics and are doing this crap on purpose to try to push their agenda
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