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re: Do you consider rap and hip hop to be music?
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:35 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:35 pm to SaintlyTiger88
It is best when you mix rap and rock
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:37 pm to wesfau
Hip/Hop, I’ll give you that. For example, Destiny’s Child. They were incredible singers with top notch harmony and melody.
I was more talking about rap in the quote you referenced.
I was more talking about rap in the quote you referenced.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:38 pm to danilo
Danilo, I will admit rap metal is a guilty pleasure lol
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:46 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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But rap is missing musical elements. Where is the harmony? Melody? When is there any singing?
Bruh, you might wanna listen again. Also, why does music have to have singing?
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:51 pm to SaintlyTiger88
No, I consider it to be people talking over music created by others
Posted on 3/18/24 at 2:55 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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Where is the harmony? Melody? When is there any singing?
This remark reminds me of when there was a definition of "beauty" as defined by the wealthy elites and if something did not check the boxes of that definition then it was look down upon by those elites.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:18 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Is this the thread for out of touch middle aged white men?
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:28 pm to Zappas Stache
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This remark reminds me of when there was a definition of "beauty" as defined by the wealthy elites and if something did not check the boxes of that definition then it was look down upon by those elites.
You might want to look back where I gave rap credit as being “artistic expression”. In that sense, it is completely valid. If it resonates with someone, it is art.
I’m just not agreeing with that art being “musical” art.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:29 pm to Brosef Stalin
Um, I’m 35. Haven’t quite reached middle age, sir.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 3:50 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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Hip/Hop, I’ll give you that. For example, Destiny’s Child. ...
I was more talking about rap in the quote you referenced.
Buddy, I don't think you have much of a grasp on the words you're throwing around.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 4:34 pm to SaintlyTiger88
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SaintlyTiger88
This is Al Eaton playing guitar on this track. One of many rap songs with instruments.
You're just the typical ignorant poster talking confidently about things you have no real knowledge about and making a fool of yourself.
Too $hort - City of Dope
Posted on 3/18/24 at 5:08 pm to Sayre
It's mere poetry with a thump
IT sucks and should be nowhere near a music genre
IT sucks and should be nowhere near a music genre
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:26 pm to Sayre
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You're just the typical ignorant poster talking confidently about things you have no real knowledge about and making a fool of yourself.
Whoa, easy there. Yes, I don’t listen to rap and hip hop. If you read the title of the thread, you’ll see I’m asking if YOU believe it to be music. I have my opinion, you have yours. Sure, there may be certain rap songs that have instruments, but this is not the norm.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:29 pm to wesfau
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Buddy, I don't think you have much of a grasp on the words you're throwing around.
Where am I without a grasp? Destiny’s Child is not a rap group. They’re a hip hop/soul/r&b group. So yes, I’ll admit that hip hop has a lot more musicality than rap, which is what I was talking about in that context you bring up.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:41 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Some hip hop is more “musical” than the rest.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:50 pm to Sayre
I think what he meant is you don't hear any instruments being played in modern day rap.
Now that may true or not it but it is hard to tell with the noise pollution that it has become.
Now that may true or not it but it is hard to tell with the noise pollution that it has become.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:16 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I find in this debate more times than not, the lines are often drawn between musicians and non musicians as to how they feel about hip hop/rap.
The day someone could sit down with a drum machine and create beats with their fingers was the day the quality of music began to wane.
Even punk bands who played songs with three or four chords were forced to learn an instrument. To study and woodshed and become at least mildly proficient at playing their instrument.
I submit that if you’ve never spent those hours, days, months and years alone, learning everything possible about your instrument, it’s hard to understand where the negativity surrounding rap comes from.
Add to that the fact that for many musicians, the performers they looked up to or were inspired by may have often been overlooked by the general public. They may have struggled after pouring themselves into writing a piece only to see it whored out as a music bed for someone to mumble over.
In conclusion, when music no longer required an immense effort to write and perform, music became a shadow of itself.
The day someone could sit down with a drum machine and create beats with their fingers was the day the quality of music began to wane.
Even punk bands who played songs with three or four chords were forced to learn an instrument. To study and woodshed and become at least mildly proficient at playing their instrument.
I submit that if you’ve never spent those hours, days, months and years alone, learning everything possible about your instrument, it’s hard to understand where the negativity surrounding rap comes from.
Add to that the fact that for many musicians, the performers they looked up to or were inspired by may have often been overlooked by the general public. They may have struggled after pouring themselves into writing a piece only to see it whored out as a music bed for someone to mumble over.
In conclusion, when music no longer required an immense effort to write and perform, music became a shadow of itself.
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