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Question about dog starting to growl

Posted on 3/13/24 at 4:22 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21055 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 4:22 pm
3 year old cur has never been a problem and is not a problem yet. But out of the blue he is starting to growl at people,mainly us.

He has done it twice to us when eating a pigs ear and he did it to my FIL today when he got to close.

Any ideas as to why this behavior is starting all of the sudden and any behavior modification tips. He is clipped too
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29586 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 4:35 pm to
Black mouth cur? My parents had two of them at different times when I was growing up. They can be a little mean. We had females and they were the meanest dogs we ever had. Never bit anyone though. With a male, I don't know, but you will have to watch him.

Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5583 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 4:39 pm to
Is the growling just surrounding possessiveness? Where was he and what was the situation when he growled at your FIL?

It's really hard to say without knowing the dog's history/personality. I had a dog that started exhibiting a little bit of possessiveness around food/bones just shy of his first birthday. My solution was gradual, but I basically started by feeding him out of my hand. At first, he ate but did so very tensely. The second I could tell he relaxed, I would praise him. After a few days he would eat out of my hand completely relaxed. I then transitioned to the bowl and would put a handful of food into his bowl and continually feed him as he ate to try to create a positive association with hands and food. I required him to sit, then I placed the food bowl in front of him, then released him to eat. Once he got comfortable with that, I would then place my hand in the bowl while he was eating sometimes.

Over time, his food possessiveness went away. Another method is to spread food out all over the floor. The idea is that this confuses the dog and he no longer has a small place to guard. Most dog behaviorists will tell you that you should not take the dog's food or bone away in response to aggression. I've never had a really serious issue with it so I can't speak to the merits of that theory, but I never took his food or his bone away from him. I just gave him bones less. The consensus, however, is that you should not address the issue with force as it is likely to compound the problem, which could be dangerous for you.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted by deeprig9
2023/24 B2B GSB Riboff Champ
Member since Sep 2012
66394 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 4:49 pm to
Any new additions to the household, like other pets, or children, anything that would trigger him to assert his place in the pack?
Posted by Fencepimp
Brusly
Member since Jun 2022
490 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:06 pm to
Our pack had problems with animal chews ..ears,hooves, rawhide. Nyla Bones and ropes made them less possessive. The ropes are good to play tug of war with when they get funny.
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1777 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:46 pm to
I have had many dogs over the years, but my current boxer is the first dog I've ever had that growled. The past 10 years I've only had boxers. At first, I thought he was trying to show me that he wanted to be the dominant one in the house, but I quickly realized that was his way of telling me he wants to play.

I would just watch the dog closely and try to pick up on what's going on around him when he growls. I always thought it meant aggression, but that wasn't the case at all. My biggest problem is he always seems to growl when I'm in the middle of something and can't play with him, which only makes him growl louder.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11407 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:09 pm to
I feel your pain. We have a Frenchie who is Jekyll and Hyde. Loves people and very active. Has never been aggressive with other dogs.

But if he gets something he shouldn’t have, or we try to give him a bath or something, the demon appears. After biting some family members we got him on some behavioral medicine and sent him to a board and train. It’s not cured and we hope the training tips are slowly helping. Teaching “leave it,” “place,” etc. it’s all positive feedback and treats, which is the way to go.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1371 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 6:28 pm to
If I have a dog that does this, and have had several in the past, I would slowly work my way in to the object with my hand, saying NOOOO in a deep, stern voice, until I reached the object and pulled it away without incident. Don’t ever pull your hand back even if they snap. That’s the reaction they want. It won’t hurt, it’s usually a lung and not hard bite. If they snap at you, grab and squeeze the heck out of their snout until they release. With that accomplished , you tell them good boy ( or girl) in a calm, affirming voice. Slowly give it back to them and take it slowly away again using the same method. It’ll be over in less than 5 tries.

They need to know who is boss, and what the boss will, and will not, tolerate. They understand that very quickly if done right.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14980 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:51 pm to
I’d recommend knocking sparks off of his head every time he does it until he doesn’t.
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
2108 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 9:42 pm to
Sounds like a cur dog to me. He’s just talking to you.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2010 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 11:13 am to
Only a matter of time before he bites somebody and is reported as a pitbull.
Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67
DTB
Member since Sep 2020
1148 posts
Posted on 3/15/24 at 3:31 pm to
Can always strap a e collar to him and when he does it give him a little nick. I would run the collar on like 4-5 if 10 is the highest. Tell him no he keeps on tell him no again and nick him.

Some ppl may say it’s mean but before I put a ecollar on my lab I shocked myself with it so.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
16653 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 7:56 am to
quote:

He has done it twice to us when eating a pigs ear and he did it to my FIL today when he got to close.


Resource guarding. Not a good trait.
quote:

...and he did it to my FIL today when he got too close.


Unclear if there was food involved. If not, it is not a good sign.

Had a Golden that resource guarded. We decided to leave her alone when she ate. Was otherwise fine.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64695 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:37 pm to
We have a black mouth cur. He’s 7 now and the last two years he prefers just to chill and not rough house with the littles like he used to. I think it’s just how they are getting older. He’s super protective of the kids and the property. If a tick farts the wrong way on our land he’s barking and letting us know.

The only time I’ve seen him get really mad is if our boxer is playing with the 4 year old and he perceives it as the 4 year old getting hurt, he’ll snap at the boxer pretty aggressively in an effort to protect.
Posted by jmkidder
lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
476 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:43 pm to
As soon as he does it grab him (or her) and hold him down on his back while looking into his eyes and growling at him, showing your teeth. Hold him there until he quits struggling. Someone has to be the boss, if it’s not you it’s him.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1097 posts
Posted on 3/20/24 at 10:32 am to
3yo pushing for position in the pack. It will most likely get worse and is difficult to fix at this point, at least by an inexperienced owner. Most cur lines don’t generally make great family dogs.
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