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re: The Gold Star dad that heckled Biden was arrested
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:17 pm to POTUS2024
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:17 pm to POTUS2024
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How can this possibly be a crime?
Really?
A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU?
While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:32 pm to BuckyCheese
frick your decorum. Such a bitch position. There’s this thing called the 1st Amendment that outranks your decorum.
Where was Biden’s “decorum” when he was standing on the airstrip checking his watch when the bodies of the dead servicemen killed in the base attack where in route?
Where was Biden’s “decorum” when he was standing on the airstrip checking his watch when the bodies of the dead servicemen killed in the base attack where in route?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:43 pm to BuckyCheese
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Really?
A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU?
While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
So what should the punishment be for 13 dead troops due to incompetence leading the most powerful and most expensive military?
Posted on 3/7/24 at 11:50 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:
Really?
A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU?
While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
It's a public space. It's the most public space there is, IMO. The People own this country, not the government.
The man has First Amendment guarantees to present grievances, speak in public, etc. This was clearly a grievance and he gets vast amounts of latitude to present a grievance, particularly in this set of circumstances. Biden is the CIC of the military, how else could this man ever get such an opportunity to present his grievance over the death of his son, which was certainly caused by the reckless and negligent behavior of this traitor, Biden?
He didn't shout down the President. The speech was never stopped. The President was never impeded in any way from delivering the speech.
How many times do the people clap forever during these speeches? There's more of an interruption there than what this guy did. Should they also be arrested? It seems self-evident that a grievance from the citizenry is afforded a lot more latitude than the fawning applause from a group of politicians.
Giving this man sufficient time to present his grievance and then asking him to refrain further is acceptable. Removing after may also be acceptable. Charging him with a crime is chilling upon further speech by him and others and violates the First Amendment. Are we to never interrupt a politician now? Are people with badges and guns supposed to insulate elected leaders from hearing the public, or punish the People after they insure they are heard? That's despotic.
It's absurd to think this is a crime. I hope a major law firm takes this pro bono and fights this, no matter what, even if the charges are dropped. This is another overreach by the federal government to chill our First Amendment rights, it should be met with litigation and there should be consequences for the government in terms of a judgment, punitive costs etc. This type of behavior by government is not acceptable.
If politicians can negligently or even rightly send us to war and put our people in the ground, and be shielded from the outcry from the public later, then we are done as a nation.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 12:44 am to BuckyCheese
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While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
What a stupid take. The whole decorum farce is bullshite anyways. Watch PMQs in the UK’s House of Commons. Somehow they survive the chaos.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:17 am to BuckyCheese
quote:
How can this possibly be a crime?
quote:
Really? A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU? While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
I must disagree.
I understand escorting him out of the building. I think charging him with a crime is absurd, especially in a country that prides itself on its freedom.
And furthermore, I don’t see an issue with some shouting and heckling during the event. If it gets out of hand, have the Speaker stand up and gavel, restore order. If interruption continues, have the person escorted out. This happens all the time in other democratic countries with their formal government events.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 6:01 am to BuckyCheese
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A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU?
Biden's not really the President
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:04 am to BuckyCheese
quote:
Really? A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU? While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
Learn to read. Start with the constitution. How many people have been arrested before for yelling during the state of the union?
I’ll give you a hint. It is the number less than 1 and greater than -1.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:15 am to BuckyCheese
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A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU?
You just get the guy to leave the venue.
Did the women that poured pigs blood on their snatches during Kavanaugh hearing get arrested?
Horrible look for Joe to lock up grieving parents for raising their voice.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:19 am to BuckyCheese
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decorum
Failure to follow decorum is a crime now? I mean literally Hitler stuff.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:34 am to BuckyCheese
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quote:
How can this possibly be a crime?
Really?
A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU?
While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
Imagine having your son murdered because a retarded politician made a retarded decision, and having zero manner to have your voice heard. The president hides behind handlers. The media protects the party.
Having him escorted out would be acceptable. Arrested is absurd. But, we do live in a police state. We have friends that lived thru the 70s-80s in eastern Europe. They are very concerned about where we are headed. You should be, too.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 8:11 am to BuckyCheese
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A guy shouting down the President, in Congress, during the SOTU? While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
He shouldn’t be arrested and charged. Just remove him from the area
Posted on 3/8/24 at 8:25 am to BuckyCheese
quote:Like screaming "FOUR MORE YEARS" in unison?
While I agree with his position, there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:17 am to BuckyCheese
You think they would have arrested a BLM or Black Trans Lives Matter protestor who did the same thing? I highly doubt it.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:34 am to BuckyCheese
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some decorum
So ask him to leave.
Again how is it a crime?
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:41 am to BuckyCheese
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there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
They could remove him from the building then do what they did to the thousands of BLM and George Floyd rioters... nothing.
Posted on 3/8/24 at 12:54 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:
there does need to be some decorum otherwise you'd have chaos with the entire gallery joining in.
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