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re: The DC Uniparty wants everything you don't.

Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:00 am to
They would automatically become literally Hitler.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4743 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:37 am to
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That's how we got tax cuts? Regulatory reform? A 6-3 Supreme Court? Those are the goals of Democrats?


Let’s look at a couple of the most important current issues in the minds of many voters as we near the general election - immigration/border and continued massive funding to Ukraine with no end in sight.

Where do you see the major differences between the two main parties?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:54 am to
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Let’s look at a couple of the most important current issues in the minds of many voters as we near the general election - immigration/border and continued massive funding to Ukraine with no end in sight.

Where do you see the major differences between the two main parties?

Now THAT is what you call framing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:55 am to
Cut spending, force them to fight over scraps.


Thats the only way, but no one has the guts.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4743 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:57 am to
It was a straight forward question that most people will understand.

Those do happen to be two of the current biggest issues.

Please educate the board and contrast where the two major parties differ.

Thanks.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13105 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:01 am to
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They want deficit spending.

They want to grow federal government.



And MAGA doesn't?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:04 am to
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It was a straight forward question that most people will understand.

Which you framed based around 2 idiosyncratic and acute crises.

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Please educate the board and contrast where the two major parties differ.

The population still largely supports assisting Ukraine against the Russian aggression, so you're going to have overlap in the 2 parties.

The population has only recently shifted with respect to immigration, and we'll see a political flip if the trend continues. If both parties end up supporting more restrictive immigration down the line, will that also be evidence of a Uniparty? Or just a change in voter policy preference?
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4743 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:16 am to
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Which you framed based around 2 idiosyncratic and acute crises.


Which again still happen to be two of the biggest current issues regardless of how you personally wish to define it.

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The population still largely supports assisting Ukraine against the Russian aggression, so you're going to have overlap in the 2 parties.


Citation please. Where do you see the population at large still largely supports?

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The population has only recently shifted with respect to immigration, and we'll see a political flip if the trend continues.


Recent as in practically day 1 when Biden assumed the WH. It’s been going on for awhile now. And Trump was actually trying to do something about it during his 4 years which most people recognized.

So really, you tried to define the issues as you preferred to see them and then posed a couple of what if questions but you really didn’t answer a pretty straightforward question.

We have an election coming up in November and many voters are going to be thinking of these things.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
14055 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:19 am to
They also want globalization and an even greater separatism between the upper and middle classes.


To be blunt they do not want to govern. They want to rule.
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
7306 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:20 am to
"they want to destroy America" would do
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119554 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:22 am to
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Which you framed based around 2 idiosyncratic and acute crises.


How out of touch do you have to be to call war funding (Ukraine in this case) and immigration "idiosyncratic and acute crises" when we have been at war for the last 2 decades and the border has been a campaign issue in every campaign since I've been born.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263293 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:24 am to
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How out of touch do you have to be to call war funding (Ukraine in this case) and immigration "idiosyncratic and acute crises"


He is starting to get bad with hyperbole. Those basic bitches are rubbing off on him.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5125 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:29 am to
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The population still largely supports assisting Ukraine against the Russian aggression


Most people couldn't find Ukraine on a map and have no knowledge of what led up to the war.

They just take in the basic premise of Ukraine = good and Russia = bad spewed by most mainstream media

It took most of the population 10+ years to figure out the Iraq war was a disaster and we stayed in Afganhistan way too long
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2978 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:31 am to
SFP, so enlightened and above the fray... Such a true conservative.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2978 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:33 am to
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I can confirm those are all talking points.


No, you c u n t.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2978 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:34 am to
TDS has just ravaged these people...
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2978 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:37 am to
Your fellow citizens in East Palestine have sure been left alone by the Biden admin and federal government.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:40 am to
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Which again still happen to be two of the biggest current issues r

Hence the usage of "acute"

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Where do you see the population at large still largely supports?



That's from 2-29-24. 60% feel our contributions are either about right or too little.



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And Trump was actually trying to do something about it during his 4 years which most people recognized.

He was too focused on stupid things like getting a wall built. Only later did he achieve good policy (Remain in Mexico). That was in December 2018.

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you tried to define the issues as you preferred to see them

You mean the major issues that divide the parties and have for decades? Yes, I relied on history instead of 2 random datapoints that will be gone shortly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:42 am to
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when we have been at war for the last 2 decades

In Ukraine? No. 2 years.

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and the border has been a campaign issue in every campaign since I've been born.

The current crisis is one of a matter of years.

Your comment about the border being a common campaign issue is true, but it ignores how the issue is very malleable and moves along a spectrum. Clinton wanted a closed border. Now the Democrats want a more open border. Republicans shift back and forth on it, too.

Exactly why taking a snapshot of a very short time frame during an acute crisis is not a way to frame a larger discussion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:43 am to
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and have no knowledge of what led up to the war.

Correct. Most Patriots ignore this, too. Russia causing a civil uprising due to a puppet regime has had long-term consequences.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 10:44 am
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