re: Pels Game 60

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Hell last year with a much better Zion Willie had us at a 1 seed before injuries struck.

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That was in December. When Zion left, he let this team go on a 10 game losing streak which in essence basically ended our season. This is a coach who literally played Kira Lewis in the play-in game against the Thunder for no reason whatsoever.

Yes . Fans are not rational .ppl complain about malone being stubborn bc he is .

Wolves fans have wanted to fire Chris finch for 2 years . Obviously things are going well for them now but they still complain bc expectations change and they’ve lost ground. Quin Snyder is a hoops genius and ppl hate his guts. Ppl are calling for Steve Kerr head. Thibs was on the verge of being run out of NY just as he was in Chicago and Minnesota .


Thunder fans don’t love daignault all the time and certainly had ppl wanting to fire him but they trust the organization bc the guy in charge is the best in the business .


My guess is you live in South Louisiana and aren’t exposed to other markets . There are plenty of ppl in every fan base that blame the coach or think there is some one that would be better .

There are always things that coach’s can do better . Any coach would tell you that . But the nba is much more about the jimmy’s and the Joes . The Pels are a deep team without high end top end talent and leadership on the court and that ultimately is what limits their ceiling to a 5 seed.

It's fair to point that out about other team's but we are seriously 0-15 now when trailing heading into the 4th. We have are near the bottom in blown double digit leads and one of the worst in clutch time. I think it is more than fair to place some of the blame on the head coach, no?

I have said Willie is far from perfect but I believe our 4th quarter issues are more player driven . Too many one end guys. An out of shape guy . Guys that aren’t 3 level scorers. Guys that are leaders : guys that aren’t killers .

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I have said Willie is far from perfect but I believe our 4th quarter issues are more player driven . Too many one end guys. An out of shape guy . Guys that aren’t 3 level scorers. Guys that are leaders : guys that aren’t killers .

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So you think whether a coach is putting them in the right position, drawing up plays, trying to get the ball in the right player’s hands, calling timeouts, and managing substitutions appropriately-these don’t have a major impact on how a player performs in the clutch?

There are times in the fourth quarter in a close game where Zion and BI aren’t even on the floor together or Zion every game is taken out with 5 minutes left in the game. Then instead of calling a timeout to put him back in- our coach literally waits several plays until there is a stoppage of play. How about continuosly playing Nance in the clutch over JV- when JV has clearly shown he is the more superior player. Just curious are all these issues also on the players??

Might be in the minority here but I was proud of the guys for fighting back from that abysmal start. They fought hard, just outmatched by a fresher/faster team. They just couldn’t string together enough defensive stands

Not arguing that. I’ve been arguing this team has no postseason future with its composition of bigs. JV got benched after 7 whole minutes cause he’s not fast enough to play at the Pacers pace. This is the type of game where you shake your fist at the development of Jaxson Hayes. Nance is hardly the lesser of two evils, something has to give in the offseason

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I just said hes a much better coach than Willie.

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Not really. At least not if we're taking the Blazers playoff series as the example to prove that

You're comparing two coaches in two completely different phases of their respective careers.

Gentry was a mediocre old coach when we had him. Willie is a mediocre young coach right now. This franchise is the mediocre flame for mediocre moths.

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Bi consistently reverts to his comfort zone late in game which is mid range

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B/c it's a shot he knows he can get off at any time, and when you're given the ball with 10 seconds left in the shot clock, there's not much else you can do.
And no i don't want him taking that shot that often either, but when the first play breaks down and we are scrambling to get a shot off, it's about the best we can hope for. The issue is why isn't the first play ever working?

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In case you haven’t noticed the Zion / Bi minutes are not typically the prettiest , hence our problem down the stretch of games , and to start 3rd quarters .

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Their NetRtg as a 2 man lineup stat in the 1st half is +11.4
in the 3rd quarter it is -2.5
in the 4th quarter it is -15.0


I'm not blaming the players on that. That's a coaching issue. Other teams are coming out of halftime with better gameplans than we are.

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The Pels put the ball in Zions and he turns it over or put it in BI’s and get a tough middy. We don’t have a Halliburton level player .

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It should be really simple, yet we rarely ever do this.
First off, JV shouldn't be in the game, and neither should Larry.
It shoudl be CJ/Herb/Trey with BI/Zion.

Give the ball to BI, let Zion go set a pick for him, and let BI decide if he wants to get to the goal, take a wide open mid range shot (and i mean wide open, b/c he makes those at a 75% rate), or if he wants to hit Zion on the role. If anyone helps on the Zion roll or on BI, then Herb should be in the right corner, Trey on the right wing, and CJ on the left side for a wide open 3.
It should literally be that easy, yet we never do that.
You think Denver comes down the court late in games and doen'st involve both Jokic and Murray in almost every single play?
Hell i dont' care if Zion is the one with the ball, and BI is the roll man. Just put both of those guys in the action, every single fricking time. I dont' care if it doesnt' work well right now. They need the practice, and if they cant' figure it out and make that play work, then one of them needs to get traded. Simple as that.

And the very little time that lineup has been on the court in the 4th quarter (only 5 games has that lineup seen the court together in the 4th), they have a NetRtg of -46.7. And they aren't any better in other times in the game. Their ORtg is horrendous, which makes zero sense.