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re: Google is rigging the 2024 election.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:39 am to VoxDawg
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:39 am to VoxDawg
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if he credits the larger anon community who put together the framework of the entire op and 95% of the relevant details in the middle, then it detracts from his moment in the sun.
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but they never had *proof* like we are providing." What he fails to acknowledge however, is that putting the whole puzzle together based on what was initially an unconfirmed source dropping crumbs *claiming* insider status that's later validated years later by hard proof
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Neither major nor legitimate.
I wouldn't recommend holding your breath until you can turn on the nightly national news and see actual facts being reported.
Facts are facts, irrespective of who's doing the reporting of them, so the size of the outlet or individuals who get the truth out there is irrelevant.
In my experience, the "iF iT wErE rEaLly hApPeNiNg, iT wOuLd bE aLl oVeR tHe nEwS" crowd isn't mentally strong enough to stand up on their own principles/sources when their a-hole brother-in-law starts spewing MSNBC propaganda in their face.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:40 am to LegalEazyE
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You're right. It is 100% asinine to equate bias on a tiger droppings message board to a huge company like Google controlling, censoring and manipulating biased information hundreds of millions of American voters that use their search engine and other features every day have access too. It's totally the same.
You're confusing the magnitude with the action. Rigging a student body president election isn't "not rigging" simply because it's not big or impactful. If presenting ideological views is "rigging", then it's rigging regardless of the magnitude.
If you want to have normal people tune out the word "rigging", keep saying stupid shite like this. Everything you don't like is "rigging", just like everything the left doesn't like is "racism".
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:41 am to VoxDawg
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Facts are facts, irrespective of who's doing the reporting of them, so the size of the outlet or individuals who get the truth out there is irrelevant.
It's relevant when discussing why Google would have them on their home page.
Also, credibility is largely determined by the market, so, at least the perception of legitimacy is largely tied in with popularity.
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In my experience, the "iF iT wErE rEaLly hApPeNiNg, iT wOuLd bE aLl oVeR tHe nEwS" crowd isn't mentally strong enough to stand up on their own principles/sources when their a-hole brother-in-law starts spewing MSNBC propaganda in their face.
Or perhaps, the mystical knowledge of conspiracy theorists would be better served proven with facts and not telling people to do their own research.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:43 am to tide06
What sensible person relies on information from anonymous internet sources or fly by night websites?
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:43 am to Fun Bunch
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Tim Pool saw that he couldn't make money off the Bernie people any more, and saw an even dumber, larger group to make money off of, so he is.
Look I'm not saying money is not a motivation but his intentions right now appear sincere.
Again for example, Tim is a big skateboarder. The skateboard community, like many industries has been infiltrated by woke inc. by buying off professional and up and coming skateboarders to promote woke ideology. Tim with his multimillion dollar skatepark is directly challenging woke inc. and giving the professional skateboarder an out by providing a space to compete without having to bow down to the woke class.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:44 am to VoxDawg
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We don't need MSM sources when there's a literal army of citizen journalists doing the heavy lifting in the desert of legitimate reporting.
Like I said, credible. Having trusted sources is important. Problem is that the right has started a war with all media. Just like they've done with education, science, government, doctors, etc.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Once again i'm not lumping you into that crowd, as I previously stated. I've seen you on this website for damn near 20 years and you've had a wide array of opinions on many boards, which is what every poster has and it's encouraged
I enjoy the different view points of people on here though and agree that sometimes this place becomes what they hate the most (the DU website) where you just here a bunch of the same shite over and over.
From my personal experience, as I'm younger than a bunch of people on here, i did notice the news start shifting around 2015-2016.
I'm 32 now, but when I was a senior in HS (2008-2009 school year) it seemed politics weren't nearly the divide it is today.
I enjoy the different view points of people on here though and agree that sometimes this place becomes what they hate the most (the DU website) where you just here a bunch of the same shite over and over.
From my personal experience, as I'm younger than a bunch of people on here, i did notice the news start shifting around 2015-2016.
I'm 32 now, but when I was a senior in HS (2008-2009 school year) it seemed politics weren't nearly the divide it is today.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:46 am to GumboPot
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but his intentions right now appear sincere.
I do think you are smarter than this.
You've just been temporarily captured by the grift and will wake up out of it eventually.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:46 am to Fun Bunch
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If you listen to him or believe a word that idiot says, you are very dumb.
This all or nothing purity test doesn't work in the real world.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:47 am to Fun Bunch
Wasn’t Tim big into occupy Wall Street?
It seems he might like fighting the man. And the left has been outed as “the man” and much more.
Pool feels grifty and I don’t give him the time of day but I do think there is sincerity in many of these types’ messages and motivation.
And if they are grifting, who isn’t?
It seems he might like fighting the man. And the left has been outed as “the man” and much more.
Pool feels grifty and I don’t give him the time of day but I do think there is sincerity in many of these types’ messages and motivation.
And if they are grifting, who isn’t?
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:47 am to VoxDawg
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Schellenberger wants a Pulitzer for his work on this, and he knows that if he credits the larger anon community who put together the framework of the entire op and 95% of the relevant details in the middle, then it detracts from his moment in the sun.
His defense has been "these matters have been *speculated* on by folks on the internet, but they never had *proof* like we are providing."
I have no idea if people can trust Shellenberger. He may be a deep state op, I don't know. But, what I think he and Taibbi are saying is, they finally have intel sources confirming the spy ops. If you're a deep state source, you can't go to corporate media. It's basically 5-10 people in independent media who will take this on.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:48 am to VoxDawg
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The Spygate stuff didn't begin coming into focus until Trump publicly made the claims that Obama tapped his phones at Trump Tower. That was Mar. 4, 2017.
I read a fair amount back then but certainly not everything he put out. I'm not questioning whether CTH was accurate sometimes, I'm asking if he was always accurate. His accuracy percentage matters here when it comes to what Shellenburger's trying to claim.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:49 am to VOR
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What sensible person relies on information from anonymous internet sources or fly by night websites?
Every Russiagate style BS put out by Natasha Bertrand or Ken Dilanian comes from anonymous sauces.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 10:51 am
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:49 am to Codythetiger
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i did notice the news start shifting around 2015-2016.
We had the same debates in undergrad (2001-2005 for me), and it wasn't new, then.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:49 am to ReauxlTide222
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And if they are grifting, who isn’t?
People with consistent positions over the course of many years.
I would say Steve Deace is one. Rush was one that wasn't a grifter. I don't think Matt Walsh is.
There aren't a lot of examples anymore.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:49 am to GumboPot
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This all or nothing purity test doesn't work in the real world.
Neat. We will continue to lose and shift to the left as you people allow Democrats to infiltrate every aspect of our side.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:50 am to Bunk Moreland
Google admitted years ago that just their search preferences could swing about 15% of the election one way. This type propaganda is very powerful, but also why we have a retard in the White House….
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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credibility is largely determined by the market, so, at least the perception of legitimacy is largely tied in with popularity.
And when corporate media is given marching orders to destroy/discredit any news that doesn't come from their assigned narratives/scripts, then your major outlet criteria fails to deliver.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:51 am to VOR
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What sensible person relies on information from anonymous internet sources or fly by night websites?
That's why we don't trust WaPa, NYTs, CNN, MSNBC, et al and go to alternative news sources with real sources. All these anonymous sources by the legacy news media is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 10:54 am
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