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Are out of state colleges worth it?

Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by TigahsOnTop
Member since Nov 2022
130 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:33 pm
How good does the school have to be to make out of state tuition worth it rather than going to LSU or another in state school. For a major that is useful such as pre med, finance, etc.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5314 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:37 pm to
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out of state tuition worth it


There’s almost no situation where this is worth it unless there are scholarships being offered
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23990 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:39 pm to
I’ve sent two to out of state private colleges, both great schools. It’s a different kind of investment, that’s for sure. Don’t do it if loans are required.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
2564 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to
For the overwhelming majority of careers, where you get your Bachelors degree does not matter.

For a small number of careers, where you get your Bachelors degree matters very much. Some examples....top tier private equity, investment banking, working for the top 3 consulting firms (Bain, Boston Consulting, McKinsey) and high level corporate strategy.

For some of these finance roles, going to a school like UVA, Texas or Michigan would open doors that LSU cannot.

For pre med, do not chase undergraduate prestige. Get the highest GPA possible at LSU, move heaven & earth to shadow doctors somewhere and kill it on the MCAT.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12431 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to
A win/win is to move to Texas. Better universities, better quality of life.
Posted by TC Kidd
Member since Nov 2023
776 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to
Not getting shot at a railroad crossing would make it worth to me.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15673 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to
Pharmacy, dental, med school, you go where you can get in. Maybe PA also.

I'd go for the engineer degree from A&M over LSU.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79507 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:42 pm to
The two scenarios where I think it makes more sense:

- Your in state flagships aren't very good and/or have limited reach in places you'd want to work. I don't think there are a lot of those situations.

- Your flagship in-state schools are out of reach. This is more controversial, but if you can't go to UGA in Georgia (or GT but it's obviously become more niche), you're going to be in a web of underachiever fun schools like GA Southern, big, soulless commuter schools like Kennesaw State and Georgia State, and often-oddball small colleges.

Contrary to popular belief I think undergrad choice can matter based on the circumstance. Not that you can't get a good education at Berry College, but going there vs. Clemson is probably going to impact your young adult path pretty heavily.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
18042 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:44 pm to
It’s only worth it if you are going for a very specific reason like an out of state offers a program of study not offered at a comparable school in LA or something. If my kid gets accepted to an out of state school that has a high job placement rate in her field then I don’t mind the extra cash. And I’m not talking about community planning degrees.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31803 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:44 pm to
depends on the school and where you plan to live

for example...an engineering degree from GT maybe worth it over LSU if you plan to live in Atlanta

but for the most part, no. now finance and business and some of the other degrees...have specific schools that hold a lot of weight. but for the average person, especially one that wants to live in LA and is just getting tops and no scholarship to out of state....then no. you can go look up mid career earnings pretty quickly and see that.

now there are cases where schools like bama are giving full rides to out of state students...in cases like that...yea its worth it.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4480 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:48 pm to
It depends.

Some programs have really nice facilities, world-renound faculty, an impressive alumni network, and useful internships.

Identify what matters most, create a grading rubric based on wants/needs, compare the in-state school and any out-of-state schools being considered, and make an infirmed decision.

Or ask the OT and be prepared for useless advice and rants about how not everyone needs to go to college/college is useless/there are too many institutions of higher learning/join the military/start trade school instead.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66133 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:49 pm to

Louisiana kids can go to Arkansas for in-state rates. Several touching states actually. Mine from Texas went there w 27 hours out of HS and finished in 3 years. Pretty good value.
Posted by Junkyard Hog
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
252 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:53 pm to
Depends on what state you are in.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96894 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:55 pm to
Depends on the situation.


If it is a major you can’t get in the state, you get in state rates through the Academic Common Market.


If it is a major you get in your state, the main reason to do it would be if the alumni network you would be plugged into would be a major boost for any future career.




You can get the same education at Harvard, Vandy, or West Virginia in some subjects but the contacts made at Harvard tend to be far more valuable than ones at Vandy or West Virginia unless you plan to be in very specific areas.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21396 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

going to LSU


Going to out of state schools decreases your chance of being a victim of rampant crime that persists in BR.

Can you really place a value on your child's life?

Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
908 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:16 pm to
The networking you get from some schools may be worth it.

Ivys

Stanford
Notre Dame
MIT
Georgetown
UVA
Penn St 
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7543 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

How good does the school have to be to make out of state tuition worth it rather than going to LSU or another in state school. For a major that is useful such as pre med, finance, etc.


Almost all State Universities offer some form of reciprocity tuition for students from neighboring states or states in a region that allows those students to pay in state or slightly higher in state tuition than a "traditional" out of state student. Most, if not all of these are based on an equal number of students going to the other state as those coming in from the neighboring state...for example for a kid in New Mexico going to school in Colorado there has to be a kid in Colorado going to school in New Mexico (my son went to UC Boulder from New Mexico and paid instate tuition). The student has to apply for this consideration and the slots are limited but there are usually enough slots to go around. It won't, as far as I know, work for cross country students but most regions have something similar.

There are also similar considerations for out of state students to pay in state tuition if their state does not have a school offering the degree program they plan to pursue. I know several kids from my sons high school class went to Texas schools and paid in state tuition because there wasn't a Vet program in New Mexico. Again, there has to be a slot available. New Mexico and Texas kind of have a gentleman's agreement that students from either state can go to the other state and pay in state tuition almost across the board but it is hit or miss.

In state scholarships are usually applicable in these situations. Not always but most lottery scholarships will pay instate tuition at an out of state school with a reciprocity agreement.

My son was a resident of New Mexico and Washington State while attending school in Boulder. He had the New Mexico tuition lottery and when we moved to Washington the Washington lottery which also included a living stipend. He paid in state tuition at Boulder through a reciprocity agreement with New Mexico and the Western Regional Agreement between Washington and Colorado. Had he not had this discount he'd a been fricked.

Finally the schools may not know about these agreements. I know that sounds counter intuitive but UC Boulder did not know, I had to bring it up. They may also be more interested in getting double the tuition for the arse in the desk, but I generally give people and institutions the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99786 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:27 pm to
Depends.

But, it's not just the education, but the experience of being in a different place with a different group of people.

You go to your State U, and 80% of other students you will interact with are also from your state.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40951 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:47 pm to
My experience as someone who went to a top public high school in the Chicago burbs and then LSU for undergrad

The top 10% of students at LSU blow away your median student at a U of Iowa or Indiana U
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9687 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:33 pm to
If you’re in an over populated state like Texas or Florida then yes out of state is worth it.

For example if you’re near Houston just go to LSU or OU.
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