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Explain to me how over $100M in cap room differences are the "same BOAT", please. OH, and how making the playoffs v. not making the playoffs is the "same BOAT".

Well numbnuts, both teams had 70plus million in dead cap last year.

Next year for all 3 teams - no one know yet.

And if you cant see that the 9-8 saints beat the shite of out the 9-8 Bucs and the Bucs are not in a league ahead of the Saints you cant be helped.

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No we're talking 2021 onward.

This above discussion is from 2021 onward. All had similar records last year and all three are teams that have held high dead cap over the years.

Rams/Bucs are not on some upward trajectory compared to the Saints.

Bucs got to pay Mayfield top dollar now. Stafford old and getting paid.

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The Rams won a title, in the past. We did not win a title during this can-kicking era.

Your a fricking idiot. Nfl screwing the Saints means the Saints front office messed up. Sureee.

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Why? They have like $25M in cap room.

Are you dense? Rams are desperate to fix Kupps contract situation. He’s owed a shite ton for spotty production.

LINK

Read it moron.

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Bargain basement QB shopping while in cap hell.

How much do you think Baker gets next year moron???? And where would that leave the Bucs? In the same boat as the Saints with a mid tier qb getting paid upper mid tier money.

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Panthers, Cardinals, and Titans are not well-run franchises. If you want to be like them, then you're no fan.

Yet you think the Saints are like these teams.

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The Saints have been doing that well for a LONGTIME now.

Except the past 3 years, which is the window everyone is discussing.

First of all we had a similar three year stretch of going 7-9 before 2018.

Second, the past history is relevant especially 2018/2020etc. the same timeframe where the Rams/Bucs were right and the Saints wrong because they won a championship. While pretending like the Saints didnt get screwed, and/or wouldnt have a second SB win if we didnt get screwed. I bet you wear Rams/Bucs clothes now, since the Saints couldbt overcome the refs and win the SuperBowl for you.

Ignore the Saints’ success all you want pussy. Figures you would crybaby. I’ll call be here to call you a pussy for it. I dont mind calling a spade a spade.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro

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Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:45 pm to paulbeasy

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Well numbnuts, both teams had 70plus million in dead cap last year.

Because they both ate shite due to their windows closing and engaging in a cap/roster rebuild.

We did not.

Why are you avoiding the question? It's a simple question. I'll ask again:

Explain to me how over $100M in cap room differences are the "same BOAT", please. OH, and how making the playoffs v. not making the playoffs is the "same BOAT".

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This above discussion is from 2021 onward. All had similar records last year and all three are teams that have held high dead cap over the years.

Because they had title windows (and both won titles in those windows).

Once the windows were over, they stopped huge dead caps and can kicking and took their medicine. This is what we should have done in 2021.

They are over the hump.

We haven't even started climbing our mountain.

They both made the playoffs last year.

We haven't made the playoffs in each of the 3 years following our strategical mistake.

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Rams/Bucs are not on some upward trajectory compared to the Saints.

They're already ahead of us both on the field (playoffs) and in terms of cap (over $100M in difference in cap situations)

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Your a fricking idiot. Nfl screwing the Saints means the Saints front office messed up. Sureee.

The "Nfl screwing the Saints" happened before the timeframe we're discussing.

2018 is 3 years prior to 2021, bubba. We're talking 2021-2023

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Rams are desperate to fix Kupps contract situation. He’s owed a shite ton for spotty production.

LINK

Read it moron.

Perhaps you should read it.

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I do not expect the front office to address this matter

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How much do you think Baker gets next year moron???? And where would that leave the Bucs? In the same boat as the Saints

Actually they'll still be $70-80M apart in cap situations

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Yet you think the Saints are like these teams.

I think we're making mistakes, but not as bad as them...yet.

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Ignore the Saints’ success all you want pussy.

What success have they had in 2021, 2022, or 2023?

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Posted by H-Town Tiger

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Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:31 pm to paulbeasy

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Second, the past history is relevant especially 2018/2020etc. the same timeframe where the Rams/Bucs were right and the Saints wrong because they won a championship. While pretending like the Saints didnt get screwed, and/or wouldnt have a second SB win if we didnt get screwed

I don’t think anyone is questioning what the front office did from 2017-2020. They had an open championship window with a franchise QB and built a contender, that’s all you can ask of the front office.

This disconnect you seem to have is he’s talking about what has happened since. So to summarize 2017-2020, great job by the Front Office. 2021-present not such a good job. Current situation looks mediocre at best.

This post was edited on 2/17/24 at 4:32 pm

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