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re: Four Majors and LIV players eligibility for each 2022 thru 2024

Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:17 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:17 am to
They don’t mention players results in the Seminole club invite which is also a loaded field. They don’t mention anything outside of the established golf ecosystem

If liv simply decided to conform, which is their own choosing, all the LIv accolades would be mentioned. Blame LIV and Greg of you choose to blame anyone
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:32 am to
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How can they honestly say this?
Also, L oh fricking L

How can the Masters say they continue to develop golf interest internationally? For fricks sake get the Saudi dick out of your arse. They nor pretty much anyone else has but more time and effort to develop international golf as the masters
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:34 am to
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For fricks sake get the Saudi dick out of your arse.


Honestly, I’m not sure why you get so worked up about this.

If they honestly had a commitment towards developing interest in the game of golf across the world, then they would simply mention that he plays on LIV with his all South American team, Torque GC - but they won’t do that.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 9:37 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:35 am to
I’m just calling you a moron, not worked up at all. Some liv fans have forgotten any golf existed at all before LIV
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:39 am to
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If they honestly had a commitment towards developing interest in the game of golf across the world


Hey Frid Ridley, this is what that actually looks like:
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The season-opening International Series Oman marks the first time that two full LIV Golf League teams tee it up alongside one another on one of the Asian Tour’s elevated events.

Torque Golf Club's South American stars Joaquin Niemann, Sebastian Munoz, Mito Pereira and Carlos Ortiz have all been confirmed in a star-studded field along with Stinger Golf Club's South African quartet of Louis Oosthuizen, Charl Schwartzel, Branden Grace and Dean Burmester on the testing Al Mouj Golf from Feb. 22-25.


4 weeks in a row they’ll be playing in Oman, Saudi Arabia, Hong Kong, & China - but we’re not gonna mention that bc they don’t conform to our standards…
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 9:42 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:49 am to
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4 weeks in a row they’ll be playing in Oman, Saudi Arabia,


Personally, I can’t wait to see the way they grow the game with the youth, women, and poor people in these countries.
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:54 am to
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I can’t wait to see the way they grow the game with the youth, women, and poor people in these countries.


More than the PGA or Augusta National will ever do

For starters, there are 3 Amateurs from those countries that get to tee it up against some of the best golfers in the world this weekend
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:23 am to
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or Augusta National will ever d


What? I’m fine with the PGA argument, but the Masters is pretty clearly the biggest tournament to grow the game in the entire world.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:36 am to
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the Masters is pretty clearly the biggest tournament to grow the game in the entire world.


Other than being 1 of 4 Majors, how’s that?

They care about amateur golfers because of Bobby Jones? They invite like 6 amateurs including the champions from British Amateur, Asia-Pacific Amateur, Latin America Amateur, US Mid-Am, & NCAA champ.

They didn’t even allow women to be members at AGNC until 10 years ago & they started hosting the ANWA 5 years ago.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:39 am to
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They didn’t even allow women to be members at AGNC until 10 years ago
Interesting argument to be made when you are arguing for Saudis growing the game….
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:43 am to
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you are arguing for Saudis growing the game…


Jesus man, LIV is growing the game.
I don’t give a frick about Saudi Arabia.

Same as PGA will continue to grow the game once PIF invests billions

Always gotta refer back to your evil Saudi virtue signaling
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:58 am to
Jesus frick man The Masters is growing the game. I don’t give a frick about AGNC….

funny how you combine one and not the other eh?
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 11:58 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:01 pm to
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The Masters is growing the game.


How? Other than their amateur competition?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95925 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:05 pm to
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The Foundation now serves as the vehicle whereby the Masters will further support its golf development goals and reach a broader audience. Efforts already include:

Co-founding of the Asia-Pacific Amateur Championship in 2009 with the Asia-Pacific Golf Confederation and The R&A

Co-founding the Drive, Chip and Putt Championship in 2013 with the United States Golf Association and The PGA of America

Co-Founding the Latin America Amateur Championship in 2014 with The R&A and the United States Golf Association

Sustained significant monetary contributions to The First Tee and major golf organizations around the world.

In addition, the Masters Tournament also strives to engage and excite a global audience of existing and potential golfers of all ages. These efforts include a television broadcast distributed to more than 200 countries and territories worldwide, the Junior Pass Program, televising Wednesday's Par 3 Contest and the advancement of digital technology offerings on Masters.com.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:43 pm to
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Jesus man, LIV is growing the game. I don’t give a frick about Saudi Arabia.


Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:04 pm to
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Same as PGA will continue to grow the game once PIF invests billions


Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:33 pm to
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JimTiger72


Are you laughing at your own comment?

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Asia-Pacific Amateur, Latin America Amateur


You realize this includes people like Joaquin Niemann and Hideki Matsuyama as winners? The Masters also attempts to always put international players in featured groups (they put Haotong Li in Tiger’s group once) and they give special exemptions to players that aren’t from the US.

I’m not sure how you can argue that doesn’t help grow the game.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:13 pm to
Nah, just providing the same amount of value to this thread that swagga is.

This whole “grow the game” discussion started from you questioning how a star like Niemann playing in countries like Oman & Saudi Arabia will help grow the game *in those countries*.

I stated that him & his team going to play in events like that is doing more than the PGA/AGNC are doing to grow the game *in those countries*.

& now we’re talking about The Masters growing the game with amateurs in Latin American & Asian-Pacific countries.

It’s completely hypocritical for The Masters to claim they care about “growing the game of golf across the world” - but then fail to mention anything at all about Niemann playing on LIV.

Meanwhile, Joaco & his South American team are actually playing in 4 different countries over the next month - which seems a lot more impactful in growing the game of golf around the world.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:23 pm to
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This whole “grow the game” discussion started from you questioning how a star like Niemann playing in countries like Oman & Saudi Arabia will help grow the game *in those countries*.
No it didn’t

It started when you laughed at the Masters for saying they promote international growth
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:28 pm to
Not really.

I said if they really cared about growing the game internationally, they could mention his experience playing for LIV & his all South American Torque GC team.

Then you rambled on about OWGR qualification & that’s why tMasters didn’t mention anything about LIV. Like it doesn’t exist.

Clearly not politically motivated at all. It’s just because LIV doesn’t fit the standard for OWGR.
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