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re: CWD detections by Parish.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:29 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:29 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Surely I do not need to explain the difference...
It's transmittable through saliva, is it not? Then that means it will be transmissible wherever multiple deer feed, scent check on a scrape, use the same licking branch, etc. So, whether you quit feeding or not it will exist and it will still be transmissible. I just don't like the feds fricking with every aspect of my life, besides take a look at the areas hit the hardest. Illinois, illegal to bait, Iowa, illegal to bait, Wisconsin, illegal to bait, etc.
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:29 pm to Da Hammer
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with all of the known stuff that Glyphosate causes nothing would surprise me.
Dead weeds and less erosion?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:33 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Ah well frick it then let's just not do shite. Yolo.
I don't know about all that. But I do know the government sure as hell doesn't know what to do. Especially the one in Louisiana.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:33 pm to mtb010
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just don't like the feds fricking with every aspect of my life
Me either. We should do it ourselves, or the state should. I believe the "law" is that the deer are the states property.
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So, whether you quit feeding or not it will exist and it will still be transmissible
Of course, but having the whole herd eating out of the same 12" circle all ywlear is much different than a few bucks licking a branch in the rut.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:37 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I believe the "law" is that the deer are the states property.
Not to sidetrack the thread and its been said on here before, but I love that idea and how its implemented. The State tells me when I can and cannot hunt it. They exert control over it. Claim its the state's property. But when it comes in front of my truck on Highway 61 and I plow through it they sure aren't paying the bill.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:38 pm to rmc
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the government sure as hell doesn't know what to do. Especially the one in Louisiana.
I dont disagree. Unfortunately for all of us I am not the crowned dictator of Louisiana.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:39 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Of course, but having the whole herd eating out of the same 12" circle all ywlear is much different than a few bucks licking a branch in the rut
Then explain why the mid-west states and the central US have the highest rates and do not and have not allowed baiting ever? There were cases in West Texas and everybody and their momma baits in Texas and you don't see it prevalent in Texas.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:51 pm to mtb010
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Then explain why the mid-west states and the central US have the highest rates and do not and have not allowed baiting ever? There were cases in West Texas and everybody and their momma baits in Texas and you don't see it prevalent in Texas.
Dude, his epidemiology degree only covers the corn piles on the "big private clubs" on the Mississippi river. The clubs where everyone feeds corn in 12" circles.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 5:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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stopped baiting on our own a couple years back, and we killed more mature bucks the following season.
same with our place, we expanded every food plot we had. Increased seed density, planted soybeans in the spring for the summer plots. Drought aside, it has been a success. We see more deer and more variety of deer all season long. They move around a lot more. No longer the same old doe and two yearlings, every day, roll out of bed at 7:15, face-dive the corn pile, and walk off to take a nap.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:16 pm to Riolobo
Didn’t CWD explode and spread from states that always had illegal baiting laws? If so, seems like that really doesn’t make a difference
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:55 pm to lsupride87
quote:there are a few linked documents on LDWF website that give a history. As I recall, it was first detected in captive mule deer in CO in the 1960s. Captivity seems to make CWD manifest. Seems banning deer pens and breeding ops would’ve been paramount, but so much for that idea.
Didn’t CWD explode and spread from states that always had illegal baiting laws? If so, seems like that really doesn’t make a difference
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:45 pm to White Bear
KEEP THE BAN
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:10 am to MobileJosh
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Maybe so. Maybe not. The reality is you don't know where the frick it came from nor how to stop it. Neither do the greatest Epidemiologist in the world. It's just a big guessing game.
It is a CYA game. CWD is scrapie. CWD got into deer in the 60's in CO when they penned up mule deer with scrapie infected sheep. It jumped to the deer and the rest is history.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:22 am to Da Hammer
I just checked a map of the entire U.S. where CWD has been found. There are millions of acres of agricultural/rural, the vast majority of land actually, where CWD has not been found. Virtually all ag land is treated with glyphosate at least once during a growing season. If glyphosate causes CWD wouldn’t there be more ag areas dealing with CWD?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:40 am to mtb010
I dont have the answer for that. It "originated" out there. I think someone mentioned earlier that baiting wasn't outlawed until the 90's. I suspect it just had a head start, and there's very heavy focus on testing as well.
I do know that feeding deer out of a pile is conducive to spreading disease, and CWD is expected to be transmittable via saliva. There's no benefit to baiting deer for anybody. Its a really easy and non-impactful way to improve the situation.
I do know that feeding deer out of a pile is conducive to spreading disease, and CWD is expected to be transmittable via saliva. There's no benefit to baiting deer for anybody. Its a really easy and non-impactful way to improve the situation.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:42 am to MobileJosh
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MobileJosh
You're the worst kind of dumbass - an arrogant one.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:52 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:He’s the baw who was covering arse for his WQ bros; you know, WQ, where CWD magically fell from the sky.
You're the worst kind of dumbass - an arrogant one.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:05 am to JDPndahizzy
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I'd like to see them open it up. With the drought this year and food plots not coming up proper, Freeze from couple weeks ago, the deer could use some protein right about now..
This. Helluva year to start the ban. Our deer are so poor that fawn mortality could be 80% or higher. No browse and very little mass crop.
And before I get told, we plant a super heavy mix and ferilized mid season on every open spot we could this year...... looks like a putting green.
So we may starve our herd instead of saving it.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:08 am to Da Hammer
quote:List please.
with all of the known stuff that Glyphosate causes
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:20 am to Sparetime
quote:One way or another, they’ll be ok.
So we may starve our herd instead of saving it.
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