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Where did the narrative that Coach Mc is a great Xs and Os coach originate?
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:40 pm
Where did the narrative that Coach Mc is a great Xs and Os coach originate?
I am not opining. I am just asking.
Can someone explain why and how?
I am not opining. I am just asking.
Can someone explain why and how?
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:47 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:57 pm to drizztiger
It started when we forced the ball inside last season. Our ignorant fans thought that meant we were fundamentally sound because it reminded them of basketball 35 years ago.
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:58 pm to DeathByTossDive225
We don’t run that offense at LSU
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:00 am to Madking
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We don’t run that offense at LSU
Wasn’t the question, but yes we do.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:02 am to DeathByTossDive225
Nope and every game film will prove that.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:03 am to drizztiger
quote:apparently wade only coached up the offense to play "street ball" so anything that mcmahon does is brilliant to them. it's hilarious.
Where did the narrative that Coach Mc is a great Xs and Os coach originate?
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:04 am to justice
Last year the argument was because we didn’t score so much it meant we were “running better plays.”
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:15 am to Madking
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Nope and every game film will prove that.
Cook is a big part of why you’re not seeing as much of that consistently, but we definitely do some of this stuff.
He’s a good player, but holistically it still feels like a patchwork squad. Derek Fountain is your best rebounder.
If you want to criticize McMahon, criticize his recruiting or evaluation. Personally I’m willing to give a pass considering the circumstances if he pulls together a strong class this year.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 12:57 am to Madking
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Madking
Lol you pivoted to this thread after your "we don't run anything" shtick got disproven. They literally ran a set off the opening tip, but you probably just checked the box score
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 12:59 am
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:01 am to McMahonnequin
You didn’t disprove anything I posted. I clearly stated that “every once in a blue moon we run post ups for Baker” so your attempt to say that one possession equals an entire game is not only stupid, it doesn’t refute anything I posted.
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 2:05 am
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:10 am to drizztiger
I’ve gone through the stages of grief over the death of LSU basketball. I’m now at the acceptance and apathy stages. I expected we would lose tonight and the team didn’t disappoint.
Blair and Brady were good as usual on the call though. Our radio broadcast crew never loses a game.
Blair and Brady were good as usual on the call though. Our radio broadcast crew never loses a game.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:21 am to drizztiger
You guys don’t realize how good he is.
He has Murray Stats only losing season since 1986
GOAT LSU basketball coach — how lucky we are!!
He has Murray Stats only losing season since 1986
GOAT LSU basketball coach — how lucky we are!!
Posted on 1/28/24 at 7:34 am to drizztiger
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Where did the narrative that Coach Mc is a great Xs and Os coach originate?
et tu Drizz?
Seriously, though, almost any narrative of "a coach is great/awful Xs & Os coach" is predicated on bolstering or tearing down a guy by trying to eliminate the talent level from his evaluation and is kind of silly.
Great talent makes most coaches look good, mediocre talent makes them look mediocre. You have to be truly great or truly awful to consistently make one or the other look different.
I think anyone with eyes can see that Wade drew much better talent than McMahon is drawing. I'm not sure either is a fantastic Xs & Os coach and I feel like neither is close to a bad coach.
Better talent makes for a more fun program to watch game to game.
I would say the only real feather in his cap might be recognizing unrealized talent like he did with Ja Morant. But with just one such player to his credit, that could just as easily be serendipity.
I don't know if I answered your question directly. My thought is it was a narrative put forth by folks trying to bolster McMahon either proactively or (more often I think) in defense vs attacks against him as a coach. I get both even if I think saying he is great is a stretch.
This team needs an identity and it needs to not be "well, at least they didn't give up" even though I like a team that never gives up. The early game is what I thought their identity would be, tough defense, rebounds, and good shot selection especially off of turnovers and rebounds. Once Alabama started rolling they seemed to lose that and started jacking up quick shots and missing.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 7:43 am to drizztiger
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Where did the narrative that Coach Mc is a great Xs and Os coach originate?
Because that is the one thing that the anti-Wade crowd determined was Wade’s weakness. Since they couldn’t realistically criticize his recruiting, development, and overall and conference records, they decided he was a poor gameday coach.
Thus, once we hired a new coach, and that new coach did not exceed any of Wade‘s other measurable‘s, they went back to the “X’s and O’s “argument. It is originated from people who did not like Wade and are grasping at something that McMahon may do better than he did.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:03 am to ellessuuuu
A lot of people pretending to be basketball experts who clearly don’t know shite
From Action Network Pregame
Message board warriors “we run nothing on offense”.
Nah dude, our best player is a bad fit for the system & our best post player is Derek fountain. How much simpler does it get than that? If you wanna criticize McMahon criticize recruiting & evaluation.
I think you have a fkn agenda if you do that, considering the circumstances. If he puts together a good class they will compete next year, but if he doesn’t & they flop in 2025 he will probably be gone.
Regardless,saying “we don’t run an offense” just makes you look like a massive posing dumbass.
And either way, he’s coaching 2025.
Cry harder.
We can’t have a basketball thread without it becoming a fkn Wade war — I’m just giving you facts about this team and this coach, morons.
From Action Network Pregame
quote:
LSU’s offense is at a crossroads, mostly because newly eligible point guard Jalen Cook likes to score in pick-and-roll sets while head coach Matt McMahon runs a motion offense
Message board warriors “we run nothing on offense”.
Nah dude, our best player is a bad fit for the system & our best post player is Derek fountain. How much simpler does it get than that? If you wanna criticize McMahon criticize recruiting & evaluation.
I think you have a fkn agenda if you do that, considering the circumstances. If he puts together a good class they will compete next year, but if he doesn’t & they flop in 2025 he will probably be gone.
Regardless,saying “we don’t run an offense” just makes you look like a massive posing dumbass.
And either way, he’s coaching 2025.
Cry harder.
We can’t have a basketball thread without it becoming a fkn Wade war — I’m just giving you facts about this team and this coach, morons.
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:45 am to Madking
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You didn’t disprove anything I posted. I clearly stated that “every once in a blue moon we run post ups for Baker” so your attempt to say that one possession equals an entire game is not only stupid, it doesn’t refute anything I posted.
They ran it again at the 17:00 minute mark. But every 3 minutes is once in a blue moon to you I guess
Posted on 1/28/24 at 9:46 am to drizztiger
Weird that you didn't see these posts or a lot of these posters when we were 3-1 in the SEC.
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