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re: People with the title of “Dr.” who aren’t doctors

Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:04 pm to
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Non medical Drs when they refer to themselves or demand others address them as Dr. have a complex. This is a recent phenomenon, 50-60 years ago it was not very common.
Medical degrees are earned and validated by standardized test. Practicing Drs, at minimum, require years of training after med school and passing an additional standardized test.


Of course the title of "Doctor" was historically used first for the former, and not the latter. I get that someone in the former category who insists on being called "doctor" outside of a professional setting is annoying, but you don't have to go overboard.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:10 pm to
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Most chiropractors don't refer to themselves as doctor.


A lot of them do

And BTW, Martin Luther King wasn’t a Doctor either

He had a PHD in philosophy

He was much of a Doctor as Shaq is.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:10 pm to
If someone has earned a PhD, I have no problem showing them respect and calling them Dr. SoAndSo.

In my experience, however, most PhDs do not insist on being called Dr. in social settings. In the classroom, sure, outside of it, not so much.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:12 pm to
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And BTW, Martin Luther King wasn’t a Doctor either

He had a PHD in philosophy


How is someone with a PhD not a doctor? The name itself has the damn word "doctor" in it. One thing is for sure. Most of you retards definitely are not doctors.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:12 pm to
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PhD was around first. These medical "doctors" need to change their title.


This. Medical doctors are more correctly called physicians. PhD's have doctorate degrees (Doctorate of Philosophy is what PhD means).

That said, many PhD's nowadays are useless, so they don't have the respect they used to.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:17 pm to
So every lawyer should be called Esquire…so and so
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:17 pm to
It's common in academia- among professor/student and professor/peers relationships. I have no problem with it in that setting.

I do find it absolutely maddening when nurses who have their doctorate and still practice nursing insist on being addressed as Dr. I think it's highly misleading to patients.

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:21 pm to
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I do find it absolutely maddening when nurses who have their doctorate and still practice nursing insist on being addressed as Dr. I think it's highly misleading to patients.


Yes. That pretty fricked up

So a person that has a phd in nursing is insisting on being called Dr in a medical setting should be a crime
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
33688 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:24 pm to
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So a person that has a phd in nursing is insisting on being called Dr in a medical setting should be a crime


what has the world come to where I am agreeing with you?

there is an FNP in my little neck of the woods who does that and I absolutely refuse to address him as Dr. I just call him by his first name.
Posted by killercoconut
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:26 pm to
I have a clinical doctorate as a physical therapist. Went to graduate school for three years, performed research appropriate in my field and had it published. I hold the highest clinical degree in my field and am an expert in my field. I practice with autonomy and you don’t need a physician referral to see me or for me to bill for my services. I don’t ask people to call me doctor but many do out of respect for my degree. Many don’t and that’s okay too. How is that any different than a PhD with the exception of a dissertation defense? What has the PhD done that earns that title more than me?
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:26 pm to
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So a person that has a phd in nursing is insisting on being called Dr in a medical setting should be a crime
It is in at least Georgia, Indiana and California.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:29 pm to
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So every lawyer should be called Esquire…so and so


No. That's not the same at all.
Posted by El Eh Shu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
874 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:31 pm to
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Pretty huge dick.


Michelle Obama, PhD
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:34 pm to
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No. That's not the same at all.

Then a lawyer so should be called Dr. so and so

Make up your mind.

Does a lawyer have a doctorate or not?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:43 pm to
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Then a lawyer so should be called Dr. so and so

Make up your mind.

Does a lawyer have a doctorate or not?


Make up my mind? Why don't you make sense? You're not arguing logically. A lawyer has a "doctor of jurisprudence" degree, which historically has not been viewed the same as a PhD, but if you want to call lawyers "doctors", knock yourself out.

The title "Esquire" has no relation to "doctor" other than the fact that it too is a title. But then again, so is "Mr." I'd ask you "so what"?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:46 pm to
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Juris Doctor degree is technically a professional doctorate. But unlike other Ph. D. holders, lawyers don't hold the title of "Doctor." Instead, they can choose to use the title "esquire," which is shortened to "Esq." and is fashioned after the lawyer's name.



While the JD is a doctoral degree in the US, lawyers usually use the suffix "Esq." as opposed to the prefix "Dr.",

Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
51694 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:49 pm to
4 pages and no one has made fun of Dr. Josh Eachus yet?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:01 pm to
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A
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Juris Doctor degree is technically a professional doctorate. But unlike other Ph. D. holders, lawyers don't hold the title of "Doctor." Instead, they can choose to use the title "esquire," which is shortened to "Esq." and is fashioned after the lawyer's name.



While the JD is a doctoral degree in the US, lawyers usually use the suffix "Esq." as opposed to the prefix "Dr.",





Honestly, what point are you trying to make? You're not making any sense. I understand what Esquire means and how it has been used. Again, so what?
Posted by VolunGator
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2020
1250 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:03 pm to
Your degree level is considered a first-professional degree. Others include JD, PharmD, DMIN,upon others.
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