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Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:26 am to BabyTac
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I’ve never seen a weaker generation in my life. When did all these request become acceptable when a few years ago they would’ve never existed?
On the flip side, there's been 5 days this year where if we were in office I would have had to take PTO to stay home with my children who didn't have school.
So even if I dick off for half my time, that's 50% productivity vs 0 if I take PTO.
You can't love WFH solely when it's convenient.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:26 am to BabyTac
If the same employees don’t stay late from time to time to get shite done, then I wouldn’t give them any slack either. It’s all about the individual employee and how productive they are.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:27 am to BabyTac
Your employees should quit. There are 10x better bosses out there who will let them work from home without giving them lip.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:29 am to BabyTac
I have 55 stateside employees and upwards of 100 overseas vendor employees that report up the line to me. Zero in office workers and it's been that way for years before Covid. If you can't manage these people successfully in a WFH environment you can't manage them in house either. It's not about the location its about the leadership you provide and the work culture you create. My salaried remote managers give untold time before and after hours when needed due to not having to commute. I'm also quick to approve the time off they want to keep the balance. Stop using WFH as an excuse for poor management of poor employees that you feel the need to manipulate in order to get productivity from them.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:34 am to LSUJML
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Not every situation is the same, not every company needs an office.
A lot of it depends on the job as well. Some jobs can be easily done remotely, others not so much. We have employees that couldn't do their job without being onsite, we have others that have been 100% remote for 15 years.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:37 am to SJS101
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I have 55 stateside employees and upwards of 100 overseas vendor employees that report up the line to me. Zero in office workers and it's been that way for years before Covid. If you can't manage these people successfully in a WFH environment you can't manage them in house either. It's not about the location its about the leadership you provide and the work culture you create. My salaried remote managers give untold time before and after hours when needed due to not having to commute. I'm also quick to approve the time off they want to keep the balance. Stop using WFH as an excuse for poor management of poor employees that you feel the need to manipulate in order to get productivity from them.
Well said. OP should give up the boss position and take a demotion. That is what would be best for the company since OP admits that they don't know how to properly manage their employees.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:37 am to BabyTac
BabyTac takes his $80K a year middle management job very seriously.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:43 am to BabyTac
I walked to school uphill both ways and it rained every day
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:44 am to BabyTac
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Since I get to work at 6:00am, I’m getting ready for my usual email response of, “Just got to the office. It didn’t seem like there were any issues on the road so you should be good. See ya soon!”
Weird that you pretend like there are people that work for you
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:45 am to BabyTac
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Covid was the worst thing to ever happen to the American worker.
Wrong
It was the best thing
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:46 am to SJS101
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I have 55 stateside employees and upwards of 100 overseas vendor employees that report up the line to me. Zero in office workers and it's been that way for years before Covid. If you can't manage these people successfully in a WFH environment you can't manage them in house either.
It's not about the location its about the leadership you provide and the work culture you create. My salaried remote managers give untold time before and after hours when needed due to not having to commute. I'm also quick to approve the time off they want to keep the balance.
Stop using WFH as an excuse for poor management of poor employees that you feel the need to manipulate in order to get productivity from them.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:50 am to BabyTac
Work from home is a disaster for 98% of people. Of course 100% of the OT are self starters and inexplicably more efficient working from home, but we know that's bullshite.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:51 am to BabyTac
When the weather is bad, I encourage my team to work from home. Why add unnecessary risk/stress?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:52 am to BabyTac
If they can work from home when the weather is bad then why not primarily be WFH?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:56 am to Scuttle But
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Do people not eat or take kids to tee ball practice if they work from home?
Yes, and I often come back home, get the kids situated and get back to work.
BoogaBear said it perfectly, it’s not just productivity at any point in time, it’s productivity and availability and I have like 30% more availability in the average day because I don’t spend two hours a day in traffic, or an hour out getting lunch every day.
But again, it all comes down to the employee, are you someone who can create your own structure or do you need office culture to do that. If you can, you and your employer are better off.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:56 am to Snipe
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Remote working isn't the problem.
Lazy employees who take advantage of remote work situations to screw off and incompetent employers who don't have the backbone to discipline lazy employees and instead punishing that whole company workforce are the problem.
There are a multitude of resources and programs available to monitor and track remote production if one chooses to utilize them.
Trust me, your more responsible and dedicated employees would greatly respect and appreciate your acknowledging their hard work and dedication rather than your refuel to deal with problem employees and lumping everyone into the same category.
In 20 years most people will be working remotely. Progressive companies looking for a competitive advantage will be managed by folks in their 20s today who do not need to keep tabs on their employees every second. They will measure job performance on production, not the number of hours spent eating birthday cake a week.
The one thing that ALL remote work advocates need to keep in mind though is this...if your job can be done from Georgia and your "office" or employer is in California there are very few circumstances where your job could not be done from India, for example. Some jobs requiring citizenship for security purposes would be an exception but outside of that if you can do your job more than a typical commute from the office there is no difference in it being done half way around the globe.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:57 am to danilo
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If they can work from home when the weather is bad then why not primarily be WFH?
Because you mother frickers are trash WFH employees. Borderline exclusively. Muh "more efficient at home" is a laughable and transparent lie.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:58 am to danilo
If I weren't so lazy I'd like to go through all the WFHs in this thread post history to see how many posts were made during working hours. My suspicion is that most of you are lazy fricks perusing TD instead doing your jobs a lot of the time.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 7:59 am
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