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re: Have the good ole days of duck hunting become a thing of the past.

Posted on 12/31/23 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5064 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 3:17 pm to
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The ducks haven’t pushed and are sitting in Dakotas getting hammered. I just looked at the extended forecast here in SE Kansas and the mallards won’t even be here in January based on that. Weather is the killer.


You must’ve loooked at an old forecast

Snow/cold coming to Midwest all the way down to Missouri
Euro extended showing teens in LA and freeze all the way down to south Texas around the 12th
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14050 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 3:45 pm to
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Anything I am missing
Yes, the fact that no ducks is not specific to 2023. Y’all some hard headed mother frickers.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14050 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 3:46 pm to
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Snow/cold coming to Midwest all the way down to Missouri Euro extended showing teens in LA and freeze all the way down to south Texas around the 12th
Therefore we should be covered in green tops this coming week.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31133 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 3:46 pm to
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crawfish ponds


There's your answer to the lack of snow geese in SWLA.

The ducks are an enigma. Laccassine WLR is loaded though.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31133 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 4:00 pm to
Canada needs to lower their limits as well.

It's ridiculous you can take 10 guys and kill 400 birds in 4 days in Red Deer Alberta. They kill off half the Mississippi Flyway's hatch before they cross the border.
Posted by tigerbeancounter
Member since Nov 2019
21 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 4:32 pm to
I agree with all stated.

I also think mud motors or public wmas should be banned.

I've watched the wax and venice fo from world class to mediocre. Guys running every bird out the marsh "scouting".

And our idiots on the WLF commission decide to ban drones saying they harass the birds more....smh.
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2130 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 5:16 pm to
Thanks Kemo. Was thinking about you recently. Happy New Year to you.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12885 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:17 pm to
[quote]The salinity is very high in much of the intermediate and even freshwater marshes The feed is gone[/quote

There is a pretty abrupt line where the salinity killed the vegetation where I hunt. Funny the good birds are hanging on the leases that got torched and south. Places with abundant freshwater SAVs are covered with ringnecks.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31133 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:18 pm to
I don't get the down vote on my crawfish pond comment.

I can assure you that every farmer with crawfish ponds in SWLA is on high alert to run every goose off their farm. Geese will ruin a crawfish pond in a day.

It's just way things are now.

Several years of this and the new birds don't know to come down here anymore.
Posted by FowlGuy
Member since Nov 2015
1350 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:26 pm to
I live here and know farmers here. They still grow rice. But they don’t leave the levees up for the fields to flood, and they disc them after harvest. Idk if you comprehend anything that I posted the first time cat. Yes they try to hop in fall and have been doing it a long time. But if it rains and rains a lot in October and they can’t hip, they cant get in the fields until April.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10489 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:59 pm to
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Northeast and Central LA bottoms are bone dry (no acorns to feed on). Most every pump on the WMAs are in the mud right now and can’t pump



This. There is one outfitter that is doing decent in NE LA not named Dave's Bayou. They kill steady in one pit and get some Mallards in the woods but it is so hit or miss with them it is like they are there and then gone for a week. As you said, there is zero water for ducks to go in NE LA and SE AR that doesn't have decoys on it and obviously we aren't getting the weather. I mean sure it gets cold but not the cold that is gonna budge anything North of us. Last year it got stupid cold over Christmas and we actually had a decent Mallard push into January but this year sucks arse, but it's not just LA that sucks outside of Johnson Bayou. SE TX is horrible. Not really much water on the Eastside of H-town where I hunt either. We had a strong tidal surge in October that did put water in places but it is all salt and the ducks don't sit on it long. I hear the West side and South of H-town guys are having a strong year but they got good water early and have held it.

Probably hanging up the cleats for the year unless something amazing happens in NE LA.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5064 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:04 pm to
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I live here and know farmers here. They still grow rice. But they don’t leave the levees up for the fields to flood, and they disc them after harvest. Idk if you comprehend anything that I posted the first time cat. Yes they try to hop in fall and have been doing it a long time. But if it rains and rains a lot in October and they can’t hip, they cant get in the fields until April


They don’t grow nearly the rice they used to in that part of Ark that they used to
Also they plant and harvest earlier now than in past so it gives them more time to get rid of stubble if they want and Oct is usually a dry month historically
But the decrease in rice acres has more to do with the lack of ducks than the work they do in Oct
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30744 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:25 pm to
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Geese will ruin a crawfish pond in a day.
shite so much it kills water
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:14 pm
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10994 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:36 pm to
Climate change.
Posted by Big L
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
5437 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 7:42 am to
We had a great teal season in Garwood and a decent first split…the odd thing this year seems to be the absence of Greenwing teal, but we switched to sandhill crane hunting two weeks ago so not getting many reports on ducks.

My buddy who hunts down in Bay city area has had a great year again. They get 4 man limits almost every hunt and good mix of ducks too. Of course no mallards down there but pintails, wigeon, gadwalls, spoonies, teal and a few divers.
Posted by NorthEnd
Member since Oct 2007
2149 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:46 am to
We bitch about it every year, but rhetorically-are we in LA really putting in the effort to create habitat? Much is done north of us, but we seem to just complain about what “they” do to short stop duck migration. I know of very few places that truly put in the money and time to do what it takes to hold birds.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8823 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:37 pm to
First split was great in CenLa, honestly what a real teal season should be with big ducks mixed in but second has been ok but much slower and birds arent working but still seeing a ton of mallards and big ducks high flying. Too many people calling at them and low water.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17770 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:46 pm to
They can sit on the north platte and hop to a field back to the water
Posted by Funreaux
United States
Member since Jun 2007
7361 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:18 pm to
Assume you’re talking about Mallard Crossings. They seem to still be scratching out limits on a daily basis
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7327 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:08 pm to
On public areas its been bad for years and years. I know there are outliers but they are the exception to the rule. However, on private land where quasi baiting is allowed AND pressure is kept down it is as good as its ever been. Its a commercial enterprise for all intents and purposes unless you're fortunate to have access to private areas that aren't pressured and where birds want to be.

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