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re: Ivy League Strikes Again - Colorado Supreme Court

Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:46 pm to
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Lots of govt regulation is blamed. U.S. colleges have more autonomy.


I don't have an answer for why to be honest - people have come up with lots of reasons over the years.

But the private model works in the US because US graduates are incredibly loyal to their schools.

US private schools tend to have really wealthy alumni who practically bankroll university operations instead of being beholden to government. Elite schools tend to be pretty loyal to their alumni in the US as well - it's why they're pretty much in the position they're in today where they're trying to keep both alumni and current students happy and failing to do so.

So you could argue that US schools produce really successful people or the US economy is that much stronger that it's able to produce that many successful people etc or really loyal alumni.

I'm sure most European schools would like to go private if they could afford it. But there's no such alumni loyalty that exists on the continent.

This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9522 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:06 pm to
Cal Tech is better than MIT and Stanford
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112783 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:17 pm to
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I'm sure most European schools would like to go private if they could afford it. But there's no such alumni loyalty that exists on the continent.


Yeah, I agree with your post and it reminds me of a conversation I had with a young German exchange student. It was back around 2000 and he wanted to get his premed degree and become a doctor in the U.S. if he could become an immigrant.
I asked him why he didn't go to college in Germany. He explained that every college in Germany is 'average.'
Me: 'How do Germans determine which school to attend?'
Him: 'They pick the town they like best. The colleges are the same.'
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7373 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:05 pm to
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would consider MIT 1st tier


Once again: does not mean lesser education, just not technically Ivy
Posted by MrLahey
The Salty Ham
Member since Dec 2013
787 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:34 pm to
UVA law is very pretentious.

I can't stand their undergrad alumni. A high school acquaintance visited me in school and went to some of my second week survey-level classes and kept moaning about how easy it was compared to UVA.

We should never let them in our conference. Their football program has a ceiling that is lower than VA Tech.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15477 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 3:40 pm to
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You seem to be saying some people are immune to the bullshite being taught in Ivy League schools.



No Im saying that going to an Ivy League school doesnt make you a good or bad judge. Hell I think we should have less Ivy League Justices. Justices should better reflect the public as a whole and like .4% of Americans went to an Ivy League school
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20462 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:28 pm to
One other little tid-bit. When I was researching, and being lazy, I asked ChatGPT where those four went to law school. Our friendly bot wouldn't tell me. She said I could find that information on the Colorado Supreme Court website.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11086 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:38 pm to
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The Colorado case against Trump was brought by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), headed by President and CEO Noah Bookbinder...
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who sits on the Biden administration's Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Advisory Council  (HSAC), as the Daily Caller's James Lynch reports.
Nothing to see here
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2326 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:16 pm to
The Penn Law Review published the article "The Sweep and Force of Section Three" which kick started this whole Section 3 scheme to disqualify Trump.


Conservative Con. Law professors William Baude (who clerked for Justice Roberts) and Michael Paulson (a graduate of Yale Law School and Divinity school who is outspoken on religious freedom and anti-abortion) wrote a lengthy article that can easily be seen to have influenced the CO written opinion.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:59 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 11:32 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10591 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:21 pm to
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Ivy League schools are a joke, have been for some time.


The average Harvard or Yale student is going to be significantly smarter than an average student pulled from a state school.

Are they pretentious? Yes. Are they elitist. Definitely. Do you still have to be really damn smart and a high achiever to be able to go to one of those schools? Without question.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22193 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:27 pm to
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Do you still have to be really damn smart and a high achiever to be able to go to one of those schools? Without question.



On average, sure. I'm not so sure about the kids whose entry is purchased or the "diversity" admissions.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
247 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:28 pm to
bullshite
Was true twenty years ago. Not true now.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:30 pm to
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UVA law is very pretentious.
Sheila Jackson Lee’s alma mater.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32516 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:33 pm to
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On average, sure. I'm not so sure about the kids whose entry is purchased or the "diversity" admissions.

David Hogg comes to mind.
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
2886 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:51 pm to
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LSU is not an elite school at all. But they have one of the top 3 agriculture schools in America. So does U. of Michigan.


Off topic but this is highly incorrect.
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